Mayweather is top 5 all-time even if your a hater!

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  1. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    but I thought he was the peoples champ and a warrior... right? the people would rather see him fight JMM! if his morals are so good and he doesnt fight for money or paper titles than he would give JMM the 3rd fight he deserves. :tong
     
  2. The Pup

    The Pup Member Full Member

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    Trolling at its finest
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    It's completely different. Tito Trinidad had already fought at Middleweight, and looked absolutely sensational in destroying William Joppy. Nobody had ever done that to Joppy before, and so Trinidad went into the Hopkins fight as a big favorite. What pursued was one of the most impressive boxing exhibitions this side of Whitaker/Haugen. Non-comparable.

    Kelly Pavlik was thought to be at his peak before the Bernard Hopkins fight, and went in as a huge favorite as a result. The weight might have played a factor, but Pavlik has always been an overrated fighter in my estimation, but for a 40 year old man to outbox and humiliate a P4P entrant who's thought to be the next big Middleweight star is nothing short of spellbinding.

    It boggles the mind that anyone would ever draw comparison between these wins and Floyd bringing a past prime Marquez up two divisions.

    Bernard Hopkins best wins were against Tito Trinidad, Ronald Wright, Kelly Pavlik, Glen Johnson, and Antonio Tarver. When you factor in the age of Bhop at the time of a lot of these victories, they become infinitely more impressive. The impact the weight stipulations have had is debatable.

    Mayweather has never dominated Welterweight or Junior Welterweight, and considering I felt he lost his first fight with Castillo at 135lbs, I think it'd be a stretch to say he dominated that division also. Floyd didn't look too great fighting the likes of Carlos Baldomir and Henry Bruseles.

    And he had to fight a Carlos Baldomir to become undisputed champion at Welterweight. Farcical at best. Non-comparable to Alexis fighting all comers from 130lbs to 140lbs. Just imagine if Arguello had the advantage of fighting an Aturo Gatti to win a Junior Welterweight title.
     
  4. kobefan

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    ...... AT THE SAME TIME THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS WHO DUCKED WHO?!

    FMJ DUCKED PAC!!!!!! :hi::hat
     
  5. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Insane. I don't know if I would place Floyd in my top 50
     
  6. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry, this argument is just so plain tired, that people are even starting to turn on Pacquiao over the same stuff now.

    Floyd's beaten linear champs in almost every division he's been in, and criticizing him for not facing Margarito is about as valid as Manny not wanting to bother with Tim Bradley.

    Sorry. It's just huge resentment. When someone just doesn't lose, all you have is stupid claims like this

    Manny doesn't have a better resume. He just lost more
     
  7. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at your picture man!?

    Any boxing fan who doesn't know that xyolclaine isn't even legal to box with in Nevada, let alone anywhere else, shouldn't be on a decent site like this.

    Xyolclaine's no different to the dietry dope Manny pops every week in training.

    Tons of stuff is legal to train with. You still fail drug tests if you try and box with it.

    Tons of guys have failed drug tests in Nevada on xyolclaine
     
  8. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's resume has been plain poor for quite a while.

    Most of the elite guys he's faced, as in HOF fighters, he's either lost to, or got a bit lucky.

    There's not much between either guy, other than a bit of media hype

    Sadly, that just dies with your career, and it's all resumes.
     
  9. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You think Xyolclaine is legal to box with..........................

    Why not bother people on PAcland sites. You obviously have no idea how the sport works.

    Xyolclaine is legal to train with. Illegal to box with. IN Nevada, In texas, in california, anywhere.

    You lightweight Pacland morons just don't know the rules.

    You can train with what you like. Fight night is another matter.

    You can't even take parecetemol on the day of the fight
     
  10. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Neither's Pacquiao?

    Hatton, OScar, Diaz, Clottey? Margarito?

    Hardly the toughest out there is it
     
  11. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Barrera had 70+ pro fights by then. It was a good win though.

    Hatton was prime agaisnt Mayweather, and a two weight world champion. Did you see his comeback after Floyd against lazcano? He lost that fight. Did well just to last the 12 rounds. The entire world knew he was done at the top level.

    It was a shocking, "name" fight". Hatton wasn't anywhere near an elite fighter after Lazcano and Floyd

    OScar was linear champ at 154. A heck of a lot better there than Margarito.............

    Pac's resume is a mixture of being exposed by peak, HOF guys a bit, and getting wins against old names, coming off losses.
     
  12. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you on about? Seriously?

    Floyd's took on tougher guys above 130 than Manny has.

    Manny's been desperate for Mosely, Martinez, Marquez, Williams, Bradley, Berto, the last couple of years hasn't he!?

    All boxers pick and choose a bit. Manny's done it as much as anyone
     
  13. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why did Manny walk away from a signed deal last year, as well as a concession of a 14 day cut off date, talk a lot of crap, and then 12 months later basically tell the media he's agreed to the original deal?

    He's just told the media, he will accept the original deal he walked from?

    He's probably worked out a way to beat random testing. Just stalling
     
  14. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seriously, in your dreams man. Pacquiao's been exposed by half the top guys he's ever faced.

    There resumes are basically identical in regards to tough fights. Floyd's just a lot better at it than Manny.

    Both are around 30-40
     
  15. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's turning down a record purse as he thinks it will be too easy a win?

    You morons.

    It's one of the all time most obvious ducks.

    Pacquiao gets exposed by skilled fighters. Roach hand picks brawlers for him