Mayweather IS what's wrong with boxing...

and another one

 

He doesn't have a big following in America. That could change soon though.

I don't get it, you say he wasn't a huge draw until the Judah, then you also say he wasn't a draw in the fights after the Judah fight. Furthermore, Ricky headlined 3 fights in America right before fighting Floyd. British fans had unlimited access to tickets yet none of the fights were close to selling out. His fight with Mayweather sold out in 30 minutes. I doesn't take a genius to figure out who was the draw in that fight. If you think a British fighter is the one mostly responsible for 850K Americans purchasing a PPV against a well known American fighter, you're crazy.

Corrales, Castillo, and Bruseles weren't on PPV. Most people acknowledge that he didn't start becoming a draw until the Gatti fight. The Baldo fight did well over 300K. Those are pretty good numbers.

He made $10 mill against Baldo. Naturally, a fight with Hoya is going to make him more.

Cotto is, for the most part, a regional fighter. You put him in the Garden against a New Yorker like Zab or Mosley(that fight wasn't a sellout), and you'll see big crowds.

People will pay bigger money to see Floyd fight. Which is why his live gate numbers are way better than Cotto's

If they know he's going to be boring, why would they be fans of his? That doesn't even make sense.

 

I agree.. Isn't Cotto already big enough of a draw to fight Mayweather? Doesnt every boxing fan just about know Cotto's name? Doesnt just about every boxing fan want to see Cotto vs Mayweather? A PBF/DLH II match would probably generate more money than the first, but I also do believe that a PBF/Cotto match would generate more.. I believe that because people probably already know how a second PBF/DLH match would be like no matter how big of a draw they are.. but with PBF being the big draw and Cotto the young p4p undefeated contender who could possibly hand PBF his first lost? Now I believe that would generate a load..

Why not? theyre already talking about a Pac/DLH match even with DLH probably weighing around 160 at fight time.. someone who went all the way with PBF ;p.. not saying he will fight them tho.. doubt it.. i gotta' talk **** tho for my boxer ..

 

BigReg, i wasnt just talking about being a draw with PPV. I'm talking about did Floyd ever sell out an arena.

You're telling me that you dont think that post Gatti Floyd has had way too many dull fights. When you're suppose to be an ATG, you would think you'd be exciting. ****, Whitaker was more exciting to watch than Floyd. He didnt have any fire power.

Do you think mayweather sells as many tickets in atlantic city or msg as he does in vegas. In my opinion, floyd is pretty regional as well. his home is vegas. Cotto's home is MSG. they can both bring mega crowds to their respective areas.

Determining floyd's drawing power is going to be a never ending argument I suppose. It's too subjective. The only way to really tell would be if Cotto were to fight DLH or Hatton.

 

Hell, put Floyd vs. Mitchell II on PPV and lets see how big a draw he is. :deal

 

good post but lets see cotto get past gomez 1st:good

 

i'm going to have to agree with Ant. Floyd has soo much money that apparently he can make it rain at strip clubs.

if he fights DLH or Hatton right now again, he makes at most 20 million.

I think right now if he fights Cotto he makes a minimum of 15 million and he may be able to get up to that 25 million mark.

 

I've already conceded that he became a draw after the Gatti fight

No. The Mitchell fight definately wasn't dull. Neither was the Judah fight. The Baldo fight started out well, but dulled after the 8th round. I didn't think the DLH fight was dull, but I could understand if someone said it wasnt'. The Hatton fight certainly wasn't dull either.

Floyd will pretty much sellout any arena he fights in at this point. The last fight he had on the East Coast was against Gatti. That fight sold out quick as hell. Sure, Gatti was the bigger draw. However, did a great job selling the fight as well. You put Mayweather in the Garden against Cotto or any other decent name and the fight sells out in 1 day.

 

Put De La Hoya vs. Mitchell on PPV and see what happens. Let's be real here, there's no doubting that Floyd is a big draw. He just did about 900k buys against Hatton.

 

This is all i needed to finally see. You said it. It would be a sellout no matter where it is. ****, this fight would sell out yankee stadium. and have huge PPV numbers.

 

DLH - mitchell probably still does at least 600K buys on DLHs name alone.

I don't doubt he can draw. But if you want to be real, using the Hatton #'s doesn't exactly paint a clear picture on Floyd's drawing power.

 

I've never denied that

 

One thing I'd say about PPV fights is that the people who buy them are huge boxing fans in general, not necessarily the fighters fans. Let's take the eastside community for example.

I'd say that most eastside posters all ordered on PPV the floyd vs dlh, cotto vs mosley, pac vs marquez, cotto vs zab, etc...

Does it mean that they are huge fans of either fighter or is it that they are huge boxing fans and want to see a fight. if you cant be at a fight, then then next best thing is to order it on ppv.

i'm not saying that being a fan doesnt help, but i'd say it has more to do with people just wanting to see a really good fight.