Mayweather, Jones, and Whitaker were too dominant at their best to have rivals shoul

Burley wasn't Robinsons number 1 contender for a decade. But yes ducking Burley is held against Robinson.

Hearns didn't fight McCallum but he unified the division and moved up to challenge Hagler.

Pryor begged for the fight but never competed in the same division.

I weren't asking Floyd to fight everyone. Just the guy who was number 1/2 alongside him in the same division for a couple of years.

 

Jones fought & beat a p4p rival in Toney, fair play to him... but he never fought Hopkins when both were p4p 1 & 2 (I blame Hopkins more for that but Jones should take a lot of the blame too & should have wanted that fight to prove himself undisputed no1)... he also never fought that Darius Mczxxzyyczx ****.

floyd not fighting pac is unforgivable, both are pieces of ****, truly great fighters live for those fights, they don`t avoid them.

Whitaker stepped up vs 87-0 p4p no1 Chavez & established himself as p4p no1 inside the ring, not outside it waiting for Chavez to slide & lose to someone else.

Whitaker will always be greater than Roy & floyd.... he`s a better boxer as well.

 

Pryor didn't just beg for it, he turned down the fight. He accepted a second offer (an additional $200,000), and was set to fight Leonard after the Stafford fight. The latter never happened after SRL's detached retina was discovered.

 

Ya might like the back-in-the-day columns and articles I posted on the first page.

 

floyd has atg skills but not an atg resume. and its not just about the names of the resume, its how each fighter is valued at the time if you were to think of fighters as stocks whose prices fluctuates.

shane -was p4p #3 but also was like 38 years old when they fought. even in the matchup it was clear that shane lost his physical talent. its a nice name to have on the resume but fact is that shane was shot. he got a good victory versus a killer in margo bc of styles

chico - good victory. one of floyds best wins. when floyd was at 130 he was the man.

JMM - good fight. clearly shows floyds superior ability, but a fight he was expected to win against a smaller opponent. the problem with this fight is that floyd had already competed as high as 154 and JMM was coming up to 147. floyd's body was already built into a true welterweight. if it was a tuneup fight for manny would have been ok. but not sure what you can take away from fighting a 37 year old regardless of how legendary he is..

hatton - again floyd was already settled into a true welterweight and fought up to 154. fighting the smaller hatton was a good figh and a good win bc it was prime hatton, but hatton had already got his head lumped up by loiius collazo lowering his stock. hatton was out on his feet and clearly had problems moving up to 147.


two blemishes on flloyds resume:

-he did not fight the dangerous fights when guys had momentum
-after 140 pounds he fought henry bruseles, demarcus corley which were good wins but didnt have anythign meaningful
-after the de la hoya fight who was shot, and hatton who is a B rated fighter at best (tier 2 with berto, collazo and victor ortiz)
-he then retires for 2 years when margarito, cotto, clottey and manny were all fighting each other
- all the top welterweight get into wars and he fights shane 1 year later after his margarito win who was shot


floyd has some good wins above 140 but nothing great. there is no win on his resume that compares to prime james toney or prime JCC or PRime buddy mcgirt. Pac would have been that name but there is nothing there.

i think at 37 if he beats canelo i would be impressed bc now his legacy can be built into skills and longevity. the younger stronger canelo, even though he is a green champion, would be perceived as a pretty dangerous test for the aging floyd.

 

Mayweather, avoided Vernon Forrest(a rangy, good technical boxer mover, with a good right hand and uppercut, good power) Winky Wright( a great high guard defense, behind a great active jab), Paul Williams(height, reach, very high volume, good chin at the weight), and Manny Pacquaio.

 

Whitaker had plenty of rivals. Mayweather RETIRED to avoid his rivals. RJJ was untouchable. Superman.

 

Great read :good

 

Pea is the best of his era, Roy the best of his, and PAC the best of his

 

:nut No kidding. Lets just rate fighters on their talent and how they look beating up b-level opponents and bums. Jones must be the greatest ever!

Unc Roger says you don't know **** about boxing.

 

Think DLH was # 1 p4p when Whitaker fought him as well and arguably won (in any case held his own).

Irrespective of their p4p rankings at the time, which are subjective and also dependent on who is actually around, the bottom line is that Chavez, prime DLH and Vasquez are harder fighters to beat than anyone FLoyd has bothereed to face.

And guys like Nelson and McGirt as good as anyone Floyd has faced.

Legacy wise, Whitaker should clearly be ahead of Floyd and Jones, who both became reluctant to challenge themselves in the last years of their prime.

Whitaker was not faultless either, failing to meet Quartey when he should, but at least he had a coke habit to fall back on as an excuse. Far better than being scared to lose like the other two....

 

Probably, maybe & nah.

 

All true

 

Man you right !!!!