Mayweather/Khan

I'm just giving you facts bro. If you want to make the argument that Floyd fought a better version of Maidana than Khan did, then make that argument. On the other hand was Floyd the best version of himself that fought Maidana? I saw a pretty noticeable decline in Floyd after he beat Canelo. He looked slower and sluggish when he fought Maidana.

The point I'm making is that Khan clearly beat Maidana, he also should have beaten Peterson but got robbed. He schooled Devon Alexander. The fact is that Floyd struggled with a guy in Maidana that Khan beat, if you say Maidana was much better by the time he fought Floyd, then lets discuss that, but on the flip side lets also discuss the fact that Floyd's hands were brittle and would have had a tough time knocking anyone out at that stage let alone Khan. And if Floyd can't stop Khan he's gonna have a tough time winning a decision on Khan due to Khan's work rate and style.

 

Wrong! Pbf is a stylistic nightmare for khan how is a guy like khan a boxer puncher that makes a living by outboxing guys going to outbox a superior outboxer? Khan is tailormade for pbf


khan is a orthodox boxer puncher who throws punches from predictable angles pbfs who defense is designed to defend against these types of fighters. He can see anticipate and defend against them. khan's punches because like I said he throws them from traditional angles. There's nothing awkward about khan's offense no wrinkles in his game to throw pbf off he also throws all his punches at the same speed. In fact maidana was the harder fight stylistically because he's more awkward and throws a looping overhead right that can get past the shoulder roll defense hitting pbf in the temple. Khan doesn't have that punch in his arsenal. On top of that khan has **** footwork can't fight at all distances he's a horrible on the inside and pushes fighters off when they try to get inside. If you don't have the ability to fight at multiple distances then you're not beating pbf. Khan is a low iq front runner who can't make adjustments he fights the same way through the course of a fight. Pbf figures khan out in 2 rounds outboxes him counters him beats him up and wins going away any other outcome is wishful thinking or just plain hate.

Lastly everyone is wrong about this speed thing pbf is actually the faster fighter of the two he has faster reflexes than khan and would beat him to the punch all night long. Pbf can throw single shots faster than khan can but khan can throw in combination faster so it gives the illusion of khan being faster when that's not true. Being able to throw one punch faster is far more useful in a boxing match against an elite opponent than combination punching and astute boxing fans like me have known this for years. Look at pbf-pac for reference

 

Yes Maidana was awkward, but no Floyd at that stage in his career was not faster than Khan lol. Maybe 2000s Floyd, but not 2014 Floyd who had slowed down after beating Canelo. I never claimed Khan was awkward, he didn't need to be awkward because he has the ability to just overwhelm people with his fast hands and speed like he did vs Devon Alexander which I'm sure you were impressed with.

The fight against Pacquiao is not a good reference because Pac was injured. That was a horrible version of Pacquiao and Floyd did what he had to do that night. It was a very boring uninspiring performance given that he had a one-armed man in front of him and what happened there has no relation to what would have happened vs Khan. Khan would have beaten that version of Pacquiao too, easily I might add.

Pacquiao in 2015 wasn't the same as he was in 2009-2010 who was pretty much unbeatable. Floyd had certain fights where he looked unbeatable, Hatton for one, against Canelo was another. But by the time 2014 rolled around, after that Canelo win, something changed. Floyd slowed down, and it showed in the ring vs Maidana. He did not perform well against Maidana. That version of Floyd would have had all kinds of problems against Khan.

A younger version of Floyd may have been able to deal with Khan in the way you describe, but not 2014 in my estimation. Of course we could debate this till the cows come home and we'll never know since it didn't happen. But I would ask you one thing, if Floyd in 2014 would have had such an easy time beating Khan in the way you describe, then why did Floyd choose to fight Maidana instead?

Why would Floyd do an online poll asking the fans who they wanted him to fight, then not fight that guy? Why would Floyd fight the guy that LOST to Khan instead of Khan himself? If Khan was so easy for Floyd to beat, he should have had no problem fighting him then. Khan was clearly the much bigger fight, the fight that the fans wanted to see. Floyd chose to duck Khan after doing a fan poll which Khan won that was pathetic. If Khan was so easy for Floyd he would have fought him and beat him as easy as you say it would have been. He didn't, which speaks volumes. Instead he fought the guy who Khan beat and struggled with him. That says a lot Pimp.

 

Khan wasn't deserving of the fight he had just went life and death with julio Diaz ffs and had been destroyed by garcia before that. Maidana was coming off the biggest upset of the year in clowning broner and he had a belt something that khan didn't have. I was here back then and everyone here wanted pbf to fight Maidana over Khan i don't care about some casual poll put online that was flooded by Khan groupies because he was the more known fighter. The fact remains Maidana was more deserving and stylistically was a harder fight for pbf than khan was. Khan would've been lucky to win 2 rounds against any version of pbf.

Lastly pac wasn't injured the threw punches with both hands threw combos with speed and power it's am excuse used by haters to cope with seeing their boy get outclassed. He's just not in pbfs class and loses to any version of him.

 

Dude, Pac literally had shoudler surgery after and was criticized for not disclosing the injury. Did you forget all that already??

 

He was fine his shoulder wasn't the reason he lost pbf skills were.

 

Fine? He had rotator cuff surgery FFS.... That sounds like a fine shoulder to you?

 

Yes it does he threw punches with speed and power with both hands and he checked healthy on the state commission form It's an excuse period.

 

Of course he did check that. That's EXACTLY why he got criticized for lying on that. And you know that.

He HID his shoulder injury. And f*ckin chill out, didn't say that's why he lost. Maybe Floyd would have won no matter what. But doesn't change the fact Pac had a bad shoulder.

But you think Pac faked the shoulder injury, got a doctor to FAKE doctor's notes and everything else. Sounds like some trumper sh*t to me....

 

Guys like Oscar, Shane Mosley, Sharmba Mitchell, Augustus, the version of Zab Judah Floyd fought etc to name a few.

 

I did not mean to get at you because it’s not personal but this hypothetical comes up sometimes and is a bit shallow when you consider who Floyd fought and beat including very fast fighters and better fighters than Khan. Maidana actually won one of the polls and Khan the other. Floyd chose Maidana because it was an even better fight stylistically and more lucrative because Maidana had just spanked Broner and held a title. Floyd cashes out and on the dates he fights such as Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day weekend nothing like having a Mexican or Latino as his opponent. Finally when Floyd realised how desperate Khan was for the fight going so far as to publicly announce it without permission they taught him a lesson by taking the Maidana option. Khan is just not a very smart guy in fact he can be rather thick. This was the guy who accused AJ of knocking off his missus without any proof whatsoever perhaps other than the wife like most women saying how good looking and nice that Anthony Joshua. My gut feeling about this fight is Floyd not only outclasses and outboxes Khan but stops him as well.

 

All more talented agreed but I would not say any of them where faster and quicker than Khan

 

People have surgeries all the time after fights for various reasons. I never said he faked the surgery

 

Sorry Shadow but your analysis is totally off. Floyd beat Maidana twice both times. Devon Alexander is not Floyd. Floyd outclassed better boxers than Amir Queen Khan.

 

I would. Shane and Oscar and Zab like Manny Pacquiao all have phenomenal hand speed but they are not as fast when they get in there with Floyd due to his skills, ring generalship and ability. In fact pretty soon Khan would be in survival mode like he was against Crawford. Floyd only loses in hypotheticals not real fights.