Mayweather-Marquez Results Trounced UFC 103

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  1. snakerattle79

    snakerattle79 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-boxnumbers092509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    The results trounced UFC 103, which was on pay-per- view the same night. Though the UFC does not release its pay-per-view figures, indications from industry sources are strong that the boxing card had a better than a 2-to-1 advantage.

    Schaefer suggested UFC 103 barely topped 100,000 buys. He said the performance of Mayweather-Marquez clearly established Mayweather as the successor to Oscar De La Hoya as the industry’s pay-per-view king.

    “To all the non-believers who have been saying that Floyd Mayweather is not a draw, hopefully, this will silence them,” Schaefer said. “Floyd Mayweather has proven with these numbers that he’s the No. 1 pay-per-view star in the business.

    “I said all along my goal was to break 1 million homes and so many people said I was nuts and thought it was just hype or that I didn’t know what I was doing. Media members kept talking about boxing is dying, but we knew what we had and we stayed the course and in the end, we have been vindicated.”

    UFC 103 was the company’s fourth pay-per-view in a 10-week stretch, beginning on July 11 with UFC 100. Mayweather-Marquez was the first major boxing event since Manny Pacquiao’s win over Ricky Hatton on May 2.

    Still, few in boxing other than Schaefer were willing to predict such lofty numbers for the Mayweather-Marquez bout. However, it turned out to be one of the most successful pay-per-view events in the sport’s history.

    White continuously boasted that his card would best the Mayweather card at the pay-per-view box office. He said UFC 103 did far more than 100,000 buys, but he conceded that boxing scored a heavy victory.

    White said he thought before the fights, a home run for Mayweather-Marquez would have been 650,000. But he said Friday he had been hearing from his contacts that the fight may have reached as high as 1.6 million.

    “I’m an emotional guy and if we’d only have done 100,000, or barely above 100,000, I would be suicidal,” White said. “Bottom line, we did a good number and we still got our asses kicked. What they did was phenomenal and I’m happy for them. This was our fourth pay-per-view in two months (actually 10 weeks) and we still did a great number, but this was only their second all year.

    “We honestly thought we’d do our number and that if they knocked it out of the park, they’d do around 650,000. We are ecstatic with the number we did, but they did a huge, huge number.”

    Mark Taffet of HBO Pay-Per-View said there have been more than 10 and fewer than 20 boxing matches in history that have reached or exceeded 1 million sales. Mayweather’s May 5, 2007, bout with De La Hoya in Las Vegas holds the record at 2.44 million.

    Taffet said the fight drew well across all ethnic groups, through all demographics and across the country.

    “Very clearly, Floyd Mayweather is a major attraction,” Taffet said. “The sport of boxing is in the midst of one of its great eras. There are a crop of welterweights who have the ability to deliver great matchup after great matchup and that will continue for as far as the eye can see.

    “Boxing is Monday morning water cooler talk now and that’s what you strive for. There is a tremendous vitality in the sport and we’re reaching younger fans and newer fans and that is indicated by Floyd’s terrific performance.”

    In his last fight prior to announcing his retirement, Mayweather sold 920,000 pay-per-views for a Dec. 7, 2007, match against Ricky Hatton.

    He also fared better than Pacquiao against common opponents. Pacquiao’s fight with De La Hoya sold 1.2 million. His fight with Hatton did 850,000 and his rematch with Marquez sold 405,000, according to HBO Pay-Per-View figures.

    Schaefer questioned the legitimacy of UFC pay-per-view results that were leaked. He said HBO is a publicly traded company that would face serious repercussions for releasing false numbers. The UFC, he noted, is a private company with no such concerns.

    “I think the UFC and boxing should be able to co-exist and work together in this thing that we call (combat) sports,” Schaefer said.

    “I don’t want to talk (expletive) about the UFC. But Dana White can’t do an interview without knocking boxing. If he thinks we’re idiots and don’t know anything about the pay-per-view business, I’ll make him a challenge.

    “I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”

    White said he would not allow anyone other than fighters with a contractual right to do so to audit his numbers.

    “Do you think I’m (expletive) crazy?” he said.

    But he said he thought that the success of the UFC has forced boxing promoters to be better. He called himself a huge boxing fan and said he is pleased if he can help make the sport he grew up following closely better.

    He said the success of the two shows on the same night shows the interest in combat sports.

    “I’m a true boxing fan and I’m happy for them, but what that number they pulled shows is the promise of combat sports,” White said.

    “We’re kicking ass on pay-per-view. This was their second (major) pay- per-view. We do 13 a year, plus we put fights on free TV. Clearly, combat sports are more alive now than they’ve been in a long time.

    “This shows that people are willing to stay at home on a Saturday night and watch a good fight. Do I think they delivered a good fight?

    No. I think Mayweather is the best boxer in the world, and maybe one of the best of all-time, but that was a (expletive) fight. The thing we deliver is consistency, where once a show we give you that, ‘Holy (expletive),’ moment and you turn off the TV happy.”

    Schaefer said he thought boxing promoters and the UFC shared common interests and could benefit from working together.

    “I would love to sit down with Dana White and the Fertittas (who are the UFC’s primary owners), who I hear are very nice, first-class people, and see if there are ways we can work together to make the (combat) sports space, the fight space, even bigger,” Schaefer said.

    In a statement released by his publicist, Mayweather said he was “humbled” by the card’s pay-per-view success. He also hinted at big fights in the future.

    “I returned to boxing to fight the best, and that’s what I intend to do,” Mayweather said in a statement.
     
  2. snakey112

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    “I think the UFC and boxing should be able to co-exist and work together in this thing that we call (combat) sports,”

    this is how I see it too
     
  3. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    I love Floyd but Christ there is gonna be no shutting him up now.
     
  4. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    People point out that there are more MMA PPV's than boxing PPV's. That's NOT a good thing folks. Who the hell wants to pay $50 to see a fight every other weekend?
     
  5. snakey112

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    because you get 13 quality pay per views a year of fights you actually WANT to see with no politics bull**** stopping them from happening and no fighters ducking people, how is that a bad thing?
     
  6. brixtonbeat

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    13 quality ppv's a year? LOL
     
  7. darkaz619

    darkaz619 Member Full Member

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    did you just say 13 Quality PPV a year LOL
     
  8. kel

    kel Boxing Addict banned

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    UFC should work with boxing and not programme against them, otherwise more results like this will happen.
     
  9. snakey112

    snakey112 Active Member Full Member

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    UFC didn't want to program against them, the UFC event was booked and set in stone long before the boxing event was, it was mayweather who chose to have his fight on the same night as the UFC
     
  10. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What GBP doesn't reveal is that the bar networks crushed the Mayweather fight.Checking with the two major closed circuit distributors Canadastar in Canada and Joe Hand Promotions in the US,Canadastar had 1500 UFC sites and only 60 Mayweather sites.Looks like 3000 UFC sites in the US and other than 170 movie sites,Mayweather had very little sites.So little,in fact that Hand Promotions didn't even list them.:deal
     
  11. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quality PPVs?

    Franklin/Belfort, Jardine/Rampage are quality PPV's.

    And my god, take your head out of your ass, there are a ton of politics and why do people think there is ducking in the UFC? Fighters can turn down fights you know, it happens all the time.

    PPV is a bad thing, I wouldnt brag about the UFC having more PPV's.
     
  12. snakey112

    snakey112 Active Member Full Member

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    ok fine maybe not every ppv is "quality" but there a ton of good ones, and the politics and ducking is not anywhere near the level that it is in boxing, a fight like bj penn vs gsp would take years to happen in boxing and would probably happen years after both fighters were out of their prime, no way in hell can you compare the level of politics in boxing to that in the UFC.
     
  13. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    The best fights in boxing aren't even on PPV. They are on HBO and Showtime. They show fights pretty much every weekend. I couldn't care less about the movies and I EASILY get far better value with those two channels than any PPV event.
     
  14. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    That's basically what I was getting at. I didn't know anybody needed it spelled out though.
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    A fight like GSP vs Penn? It just happened. Floyd just fought Marquez and Dana White called the fight a joke