Mayweather/McGregor Fight Discussion

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by MVC!, May 24, 2016.


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  1. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not kiwi_boxer's alt at all, ask @CST80 or someone if you don't believe me. Never had an alt.

    That post certainly had one line of complete truth - Mayweather was very talented. 2nd and 3rd lines employ hyperbole admittedly.

    Look, I'm not nearly as much of a Floyd fan as you are, but I'm still a long way away from any reasonable definition of a hater. I know you get on well with @CST80, he probably likes Floyd less than I do. Any odd likes here or there must be balanced with my other posts, and also remember that people feel differently at different times too.

    Are you happy to accept that I am not a hater and leave it there?
     
  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I wouldn't worry about it mate. He's not known what to do with himself since Floyd retired.

    Also on that topic, Mayweather did several times insist on pointless demands to secure an advantage - contradicting himself on catchweights, he made Canelo shed a couple of extra pounds that he couldn't be bothered to boil off himself when he fought Marquez.
     
  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Stupidity alert.

    1. He tried to make it, but missed it, he even had to shell out 600 grand for it. How is that purposely trying to garner an advantage?

    LMFAO

    2. Canelo was the one who asked for the fight and he said he would be fine fighting at 150 a year or so before that fight. What a hock of BS
     
  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Just apologize to me, Kiwiman, Pimp c and ESB in general and we will all be happy to drop this MVC.

    LoL, I'm kidding dude.

    Well with the apology stuff, not the generalizations, you do that WAY too much and it ruins the clarity of the real point your trying to express to others.

    Cut it out and don't ever give me the back talk you have in this thread. It nearly prevented you from learning something tonight.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Do you really want to try and stand by the above? You're more than welcome to but will look a fool doing so.

    1. He missed weight when all we hear about is how small he is and how he walks around at what the weight limit is anyway. He had weeks and weeks to get to 144 and must have known he wasn't going to make it - Floyd famously trains very hard and leaves no stone unturned. Additionally as you super fans like to continually tell everyone 600k is chump change to 'Money' May.

    2. Mr. "I want Cotto healthy" Mayweather who went on record multiple times condemning catchweights insisted on that catchweight whilst contesting the LMW title, regardless of what Canelo said or agree to he enforced a catchweight on his opponent.

    I don't think either of the above made a blind bit of difference to the outcomes of those fights but to try and pretend Mayweather didn't seek out pointless advantages in both fights is absurd.
     
  6. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Now why do you have to be such a **** with that stanza? Firstly, I will talk back to whomever I see fit. And that will NEVER change if I believe i'm right, which I do here.

    Secondly, from what I see, most of the people who find fault with it are notorious Floyd haters.

    And there is a thread that backs my claim, acceptance of a Pacquiao fight is much greater than acceptance of a Floyd/McGregor fight, which imo is more absurd because Pacquiao is actually still active and Floyd isn't. Pacquiao is a champion at 47.
     
  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Can you prove that he purposely tried to cheat him on the scales?

    If you think Floyd has that much power, why didn't he just make Marquez agree to a 147 fight? He was coming off a 1.5 year layoff and I think he had problems making weight at the very end, it's just that his body no longer let him go below 146, and he has never been below 146 ever again.

    2. Canelo was the one who asked for a fight at 150, Floyd assumed he was healthy if he was the one to suggest it, let's not pin the blame on someone else now.
     
  8. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Yeah I am cool with everything dude.

    I just wanted to address my point that IMO you generalize TOO MUCH with very serious claims. Claims that you throw too blindly upon MOST when often its a FEW. I grant you that a FEW are truthfully d-bags and that's exactly why its fair to be specific when claiming D-baggery upon others.

    Do you understand MVC? Or do you wish to keep resisting my point??
     
  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Not entirely, because you were being accusatory and stated falsehoods. I will agree that it's entirely possible that I reached a bit, but I had no intention of doing so, I was strictly talking about the many Anti-Floyd fans that post with pure bias. That's all. And there are a great # of them here.
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I have no doubt that someone as in shape as Mayweather could have shed a few more pounds in camp had he wanted to - after all he walks around only a few pounds heavier than that right? To argue that over the course of his prep he couldn't make that weight seems ludicrous to me - he simply doesn't respect catchweights and so IMO felt it was fine to miss it and saw the money lost as simply another part of JMM's purse.

    Mayweather wanted the catchweight against Canelo, I really can't believe you're embarrassing yourself like this trying to argue otherwise. If he didn't want it, he could have easily not had it and won the LMW title at the full 154 limit as he did against Cotto when making such a big deal about how **** catchweights are.

    Just write this off a a L, MVC you need someone to throw the towel in for you here.
     
  11. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    "Personally I will talk to whoever I see fit!"

    Lmao,, hahahahahaha,

    That cracked me up MVC! Ok don't get mad at me but think about it from my point of view?? Did I say anything about you talking to whoever you see fit?? You made that up in your own mind and blamed it unjustly upon me, can you see that? Or are you going to deny it just as you did with my last half dozen or so points??

    Just be real MVC. That's all I'm asking of you. If that's so offensive to you perhaps its more difficult for you than you realize??
     
  12. Peril

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    Anyone who buys this ppv deserves to be flogged.
     
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  13. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Sorry buddy, but making unfounded statements like that goes against winning in an argument.

    "I have no doubt, he probably did it" = Losing

    If he was that cunning of a guy, why wasn't he simply smarter and just made the fight at 47, so he wouldn't have to shell out 600 g's for no reason. Sorry, but you can't dispute this. That last part is just some fairy tale bull****, sorry to say!

    Firstly, I already posted evidence. Go look up a Scene article a few years back where Canelo claimed that 150 would be a good weight to fight at. Canelo fought at 153 the fight b4 Mayweather. 152 hardly did anything at all. In fact, he was completely healthy in that fight. Canelo wanted 150, at the end they ended up at 152.

    Well played sir, but you lost
     
  14. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Sorry, it's just a crock of BS!!

    Trying to act like a tough guy

    "Don't ever give me that back talk again"

    LOL. Nice try, buddy.
     
  15. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    You agree that its possible you REACHED a BIT,,

    However, you claim I was accusatory and stating falsehoods correct?

    Yet I was accusing you of REACHING too far when stating your realities correct????????

    Do you SEE how deep you are digging your overly sensitive hole MVC?

    Why not just admit you understand my point like a honourable gentleman, admit it was a fair point, then tell me I didn't have to be such a ass about it?

    That would be fair wouldn't it??
     
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