Mayweather/McGregor Fight Discussion

I know right!! the berto fight was crap but I have to count it cuz I mean berto is a former world boxing champ but to get the 50 against someone coming in for the first time with not half as much boxing experience as Floyd has then it'll be a whitewash. Get the 50 against Thurman, porter, Spence, hell I'll take khan at this point but cmon Connor?

 

What would be more "countable," a fight when you're young and beginning, against a tomato can with 20 losses, which is exactly what we already count for your typical fighter's record, or against a young novice boxer who fights professionally in another sport when you're a multiple-retiree in your forties? You count it because you must. If it's a sanctioned professional fight, at any time during your career, it counts in overall numbers and that's that.

 

Absolute Disgrace....just what Boxing does not need...

 

If your talking technicalities and semantics and pure numbers it counts but no there are young UNDEFEATEAD or better BOXERS who would and should deserve the chance to prove themselves against the best pure boxer in the past 15 years

 

Now why would you rather somebody from outside of the sport that as a fan you should love profit or make a mockery of it? Just bc it's sanctioned doesn't mean WE the fans consider it a real boxing match. More of a WWE wrestling feel here

 

40 1952-04-21

Gino Buonvino 24 14 8







Rhode Island Auditorium, Providence, Rhode Island, USA W KO


39 1952-02-13

Lee Savold 100 37 3







Convention Hall, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA W RTD


38 1951-10-26

Joe Louis 66 2 0







Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA W TKO


37 1951-08-27

Freddie Beshore 30 13 1







Boston Garden, Boston, Massachusetts, USA W KO


36 1951-07-12

Rex Layne 34 1 2







Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA W KO


35 1951-04-30

Willis Applegate 11 14 2







Rhode Island Auditorium, Providence, Rhode Island, USA W UD


34 1951-03-26

Art Henri 13 15 1







Rhode Island Auditorium, Providence, Rhode Island, USA W TKO


33 1951-03-20

Harold Mitchell 4 14 3







Auditorium, Hartford, Connecticut, USA W TKO


32 1951-01-29

Keene Simmons 8 8 1

Here are some fights Marciano had 30+ fights into his career. But sure, the Berto fight was a "sham".

 

That's just called "talking."

 

What is your point?

Marciano beat what was put in front of him.

Floyd Mayweather had/has numerous options such as brook, thurman, ggg, Bradley or even rematch with Pacquiao yet he bypassed all of those names, to get in the ring with his friend who he wanted to reward with a payday.

Let me make it clear you, this mutt doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Marciano who was and will always be one of the true greats and the first fight to go unbeaten at the highest level.

And he managed to accomplish such a feat without roids and without beating up his wives for sport.

 

You know what my point is. Are you saying guys with records like 13 wins 15 losses, 4 wins 14 losses were the best out there? Floyd had a far better career than Marciano. Marciano's best wins were nearly 40 or 40+ year old greats in an era where fighters aged FAR faster. But it's kind of obvious why you prefer Marciano over Floyd.

 

The competition was harder, no one was fighting with the intention to pad up their records. The best fought the best and so losses were more common than it was today, which is why Marciano's accomplishment will always be legendary.

Floyd's career has been marred by controversial wins that many argue were losses, ducking and suspected ped use and then you add in this freak show wwe-esque return against a jobber level boxer in O'Conor, that he will sell to the likes of yourself as a legitimate contest.

You can only nit-pick on Marciana's quality of opposition, but who else was he suppose to fight?

 

The point is, Rocky never fought a pro boxer with no pro boxing fights,

That's the point and if you had any honour you would freely and publically admit this.

Hey don't get me wrong ellerbe, I want to see the fight to see Conor get badly outclassed. Regardless, just because I want to see it happen I'm not going to sell my honour and claim its a fair fight. Its not, its a exhibition type of match.

 

McGregor is purely a money fight. Will I credit him for winning? No, but at the end of the day it's called prize fighting for a reason, and he's also 40 years old.

All that rubbish you wrote, but still Floyd has a way better resume. LOL @ you trying to defend him fighting guys with 4 wins and 14 losses 30+ fights into his career. Bu bu bu the competition was harder, hahaha. Yeah, those guys are way more credible than Berto. There's a reason why Marciano isn't high any almost any credible ATG list.

Also you bring up "controversy". There was one controversial fight which was against Castillo. What are all these controversial fights he had lmfao. GGG/Jacobs was as controversial was Castillo/Floyd. But of course someone with an agenda like you won't admit to that. Btw, why didn't you bring up how the MOB controlled boxing in Marciano's era.

 

Well why not? Mcgregor does have a license to box professionally, so yes it would count as his 50th win. I don't like that fight at all, but it is what it is.

 

I don't like it either.

It needs to be said.

Its a match against a pro fighter without a pro record. That's not normal in pro boxing.

 

He'll no its not normal, which is why I absolutely hate that fight. But he will step into the ring as a professional boxer, so I don't see any reason why it wouldn't count as shitty as it sounds.