Mayweather: "Mosley has trouble with boxers ..."

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  1. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    You have to consider the fact that Mosley moved up to have this fight at 154, which was Winky's division, and where he is most comfortable. You can argue it was all style match-up but it was clear Winky has gained Mosley's respect with his jab. Clearly, not a knock out type of power, but was strong and stingy enough to control Mosley's aggression. As for Forrest, can we say Mosley is just one chinny ******* at all? Forrest has a legit power at 147.
     
  2. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I couldn't agree with you more ... I expressed the same thing ... and i'm not trying to convince anyone of the stoppage ... but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

    Shane isn't as fast as he believes ... he struggled against much slower fighters ... and took punches from them.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I don't care how you try to cut it, Winky is not a puncher. He jabs no harder than Mayweather. The guy hasn't had a stoppage since 2002. I repeat, Vernon had good power. However, he was not a power puncher. If he was, Mosley would've been stopped in that first fight. Forrest was an excellent boxer, a natural fighter. However, his opponents were not overly concerned about his power when facing him.
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

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    Mosley losing to Forrest was no secret ... Forrest was the better boxer he beat him in the amateurs and had more amateur success fighting for a world championship and going to the olympics ... and Winky further exposed Shane for who he was a guy who had limited head movment ... wasn't a great boxer and wasn't a great tacticion.
     
  5. BENNY BLANCO

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    So would you dare try to say that if Winky committed to his punches or more specifically to his jabs even further that he couldn't TKO someone like Hatton in a head to head match up for example?

    Granted Winky is not a big puncher but his punches got the respect of big strong fighters like Vargas, Tito, Taylor, Hopkins.
     
  6. BigReg

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    Am I in the twilight zone or something? The guy described Winky as a hard puncher, that's simply not true. Yeah Winky can get people's respect with his punches, but so can Mayweather. Regardless, neither one of them are big punchers. You don't have to be a hard puncher to get Mosley or any other fighter's attention which is what the poster who I responed tried to argue.
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    people thinking for some reason that he is going to be capable of pressuring floyd or something.. that thought process is totally un realistic... this guy is not a pressure fighter.. never has & never will be... you can't change styles over night.... he looks great against fighters who come forward and looks ok against fighters who stand in one spot.. looks awful against fighters who are technicians

    not only that but he is'nt overly active, he wings shots at a time, doesnt have high output, doesnt have a wide range of variety,

    i think this fight is going to look incredibly easy... probably easier than zab vs floyd..

    his only chance is hitting a 1nce n a life time shot...
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

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    I'm glad you said that ... it opens a new perspective on this fight.

    Floyd will control the pace and distance in this fight ... he will make Shane think and mentally take him out of the fight. When that happens Shane will expend more energy trying to play catch up ... and leave himself open for some big shots. I also think that Shane won't give Floyd credit for his body attack and take body shots like Hatton, DLH, and Marquez did.
     
  9. fitzgeraldz

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    I also see the difference between Shane and a guy looking to knock Floyd off ... he's looking at this fight from a financial point of view and Floyd looks at this fight in more serious terms. Shane will get his payday and another L.
     
  10. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    shane probably just thinks he will be able to go in and bully floyd with his power & size... its really irrelevant... he wont be able to catch floyd or even slow him down

    shane will try to wing his big ass haye makers and will miss time after time.. after a while he's just going to get frustrated and lost... after 4 rounds shane is just going to look really old and people are going to say he aged over night..


    all floyd has to really focus on is pulling the trigger which has never really been a problem with floyd.. as long as he strikes first the fight is incredibly easy
     
  11. fitzgeraldz

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    For those reasons u just gave, makes me think that there's going to be a stoppage.
     
  12. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does Vernon's height and reach advantage along with Winky's southpaw and size advantage count for nothing?

    Vernon Forrest, IMO, hits a lot harder than Floyd Mayweather and is much more aggressive.

    Winky was able to outbox Shane because Shane HAD to breach the distance and find a way to score, playing right into Wright's capable southpaw right jab - Which isn't analogus to anything Floyd does.

    I like the fresher Floyd to win a close points 7-5 kinda fight - BUT - If there is a knockout scored in this fight, it will be at the hands of Mosley.
     
  13. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with everything you have said but Shane won't be stopped.
     
  14. fitzgeraldz

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    I don't think that power will come into play ... because when stoppages happen, it's usually because of an accumulation of punishment. The height and the reach and the stance had nothing to do with Shane Mosley losing, those guys beat him with straight punches and good technique.
     
  15. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think PBF is gonna win but that is pure BS, Forrest could box is was bigger than both Mayweather and Mosley, at his peak he would a threat to anyone. The Winky that beat mosley would flat out beat PBF easily and even Mayweather knew this, if you remember he called out Winky yet when Wink responded he started talking about same day weigh ins and other BS to get out of fighting him, After watching him fight Oscar at 154 there is no way in hell he would've been able to beat Wink.