Mayweather: "Mosley has trouble with boxers ..."

Think about his stoppages in recent time?

Margarito = all come forward NO defense.. relies on chin
Mayorga = ALL come forward NO defense.. relies on awkwardness (NO STAMINA)
Vargas = ALL COME FORWARD...

Didnt stop cotto = Weak defense & weak stamina
didnt stop collazo = not even close to floyd



its not to confusing once you do the math... mosley is in over his head

 

I think floyd is right, but who has floyd fought in the past who was as game, highly skilled, and as big as forrest wright or a prime DLH. In boxing a highly skilled fighter can easily defeat a fighter bigger than himself if he has enough experience and an obvious advantage in overall boxing skills. Defeating a larger opponent however becomes more difficult if he posses boxing skills relatively close to his opponent's and is bigger/taller;(even more so if the larger opponent is experienced enough and prepared to use his boxing ability effectively.) For example, as skilled as leonard was he didnt defeat hearns with boxing skills, he did it with determination and grit.

Forrest and Wright are extremely difficult fighters to outbox. Hopkins barely managed to outbox wright even while having the obvious size advantage. I cant ever recall Forrest being outboxed, as a pro, either.

I believe cotto caught mosley by surprise. Prior to the fight most people who favored cotto, thought that he would've won by walking mosley down and breaking him down like most of his other victims. Very few people (i think mosley included) knew that cotto could fight going backwards effectively. Not to mention, being left handed cotto's jab is going to be more authoritative than most of his opponents (similar to DLH and Winky who both jab with their dominant hand)

 

Floyd isn't giving us a revelation here.

 

Mosley lost those fights with Forrest and Winky because they were both able to overpower him and box as well, against Cotto he showed too much respect. At 38 I just don't see him beating Mayweather.

 

You could also argue that he stopped a man in Margarito who was considered to have a cast iron jaw, and that he beat Collazo convincingly where Hatton struggled. Plus Vargas was seen as the naturally bigger fighter (after moving up a weight) and he managed tobeat him twice dumping on his ass in the rematch.

 

Leave the idea that Winky is known only as a defensive master. At least in this discussion. Wright is a natural 154 who faced a natural welterweight (who came from lightweight) at 154. At this weight, Mosley would have felt all those punches, especially against someone who is naturally bigger than him. Those were not just jabs, those were hard jabs which controlled and eventually put Mosley back in his place, which is at 147. I am not saying the punches was the story of their fights, but I am including it as one of the reasons why he had success against Mosley. Much like Forrest had it against Sugar. In Winky's case, it was not just his defense, but the way those stingy jabs made Mosley reluctant to go full-throttle against him. It made him think twice. Anyway, I should have said enough power to gain Mosley's respect. As to your belief that Mayweather jabs as hard as Winky, I am not counting on it. Against Mosley who is bigger than him at 147, Mayweather's jab would feel like an insect bite. Compare it to Winky's jabs at 154 against a naturally smaller guy in Mosley? There is your comparison.

 

Mosley can be outboxed, regardless of if someone is or was bigger than him. Cotto outboxed him and he is not even a natural boxer. If you think that Mosley is not going to be affected by Mayweather's jab to the stomach then to the head, then you are wrong. It will frustrate him, along with May's defense. But with that said, Mosley does have speed, but he is going to have to throw shots out there and not try to load up on them. He will hit nothing but air in that way. What will help him is to dress up mayweather with his punches (throw shots that may not have a lot of pop on them, to touch him and make him ready to counter), then put a power punch in there in those moments when may comes to counter punch inbetween his shots.

 

Other than the Cotto fight Mosley did was cool against everyone else, Collazo got his ass kicked, was knocked down and was in survival mode for the last 3 rounds, I don't know what you're trying to prove by including him.

 

cast iron jaw or not... how long can you survive literally walking into someones punches? especially a seasoned vet like mosley

and like i said... vargas aint no boxer man.... another banger type... dude wasnt a slickster

yeah he whooped on collazo but collazo is what? b class? mosley didnt thump him... so how is mosley supposed to thump floyd.. thats my point in brinign him up

 

Yes.

 

I never said he was a slickster, nor did I compare him to Mayweather. I said he twice beat a naturally bigger Vargas with one of the KO's ending up on many a highlight reel.

Margarito survived against many other fighters by absorbing punches in an attempt to dish out his own - just look at Cotto and Cintron.

 

He has trouble with people who posess a good jab and some movement, like wright, forest, etc. It will be interesting anything can happen.

 

Agree with this!

 

Floyd talks a lot of nonsense but he is on the money with these comments. Sugar Shane is the type of fighter that wants someone to stand and fight with him. A counter punching slick fighter who floats around the ring gives him big problems. As evidenced by pretty much all of his losses.

 

cintron wasn't ****.... he just had one highlight reel KO against walter mattyshe and everyone over rated im


cotto on the other hand probably got cheated...and none the less... regardless... no fighter in the history of sports survived the game based off of having a great "chin"... you need defense