Mayweather: "Mosley has trouble with boxers ..."

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    No I'm saying that Floyd is a better boxer than any fighter he's faced.
     
  2. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    actually when u watch both fights.

    oscar pushed it more in the 1st fight.

    stood off and boxed more in the 2nd fight.

    had more success 2nd time round than he did first.

    take what u will from that. :hey
     
  3. fitzgeraldz

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    Why couldn't Shane Mosley beat Cotto? ...
     
  4. Morrissey

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  5. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Mosley is going to eat jabs all night !!
     
  6. Brutalwayz

    Brutalwayz Active Member Full Member

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    I disagree completely with what PBF is saying. I do think Mosley has trouble with boxers, but TALL boxers. Forrest and Winky were both a good bit taller den him and boxer and thats what he had issues with. Cotto on the other hand was just smart enough to start boxing once Mosley started tryna KO him. I don't think Mosley would have lost if he boxed with Cotto. Also Mosley has trouble with bigger guys with good jabs, not just boxers, also Floyd is none of the above.
     
  7. Brutalwayz

    Brutalwayz Active Member Full Member

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    Are you being serious?! Idk if you guys noticed, but FLOYD DOESN'T JAB!!!! I mean he does, but not nearly enough to cause a problem with Mosley.
     
  8. Jay Cutler

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    He used his jab a lot more when he came back against JMM. I think Floyd Sr. might have had something to do with that.

    Moreover Floyd has a good jab when he wants to use it. You don't think he'll use his jab against Mosley who has had problems with jabs throwing off his rhythm in the past?
     
  9. fitzgeraldz

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    He does Jab ... it doesn't get noticed much ... he jabed against Marquez and Hatton.
     
  10. Brutalwayz

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    Yes you're both right he does have a good jab and in the last two fights he has used it MORE, but more when he already throws very few isn't saying much. If he throws it even more than he did in those two fights then yes it may cause Mosley some problems, but it would really shock me.
     
  11. Stinky gloves

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    you should bring up these 6 loses more closely to the table
     
  12. Requiem4Hvywht

    Requiem4Hvywht Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lets dispel the myths.

    Winky didn't outbox Shane. Winky used his size and peek-a-boo guard to pressure the smaller Mosley. Winky's main weapon was his southpaw jab, but if you look at the second fight which was very close. Shane learned in the first fight that he could have some success knocking it down with his own lead hand. And the jab was NOT the deciding factor in that fight. The deciding factor was that Shane did NOT possess the footwork to fight off the back foot as a means of offsetting Winky's pressure. And he wasn't given many opportunities to tie Winky up either.

    PBF does not have the size to employ this strategy. PBF does not throw enough punches to employ this strategy.

    Forrest also didn't outbox Shane. The myth in this fight is that Forrest kept Shane at bay with his piston like jab.......NO HE DIDN"T! After the knockdown it was a combination of Mosley not recovering fully, not having the confidence to let his hands go, and being tied up by Forrest on the inside. Forrest utilized his height, and the specter of his right hand on Shane's mind to keep Shane from being aggressive. And when Shane did get on the inside Forrest grabbed him like an Octopus.

    The myth of the jab was perpetuated by HBO, because Forrest said after the fight it was the key. But if you actually look at BOTH of their fights.....you will clearly see it was NOT the key to either.

    Also PBF doesn't utilize a jab as much because he realizes that a jab is far easier to time than a lead hook or right hand that is coming off of a feint. Jabs usually have more noticeable patterns and can be used against the person throwing it.

    Just as a consistent jab can guage distance for the person throwing it, it can be used by your opponent to guage distance as well.
     
  13. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The way I see it Shane knows he can rely on his chin and power if he has to dig deep. It is about intangibles with Shane.
     
  14. spiderdon

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    oscar was never beating pbf, he threw lots of jabs that didnt land
     
  15. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i agree.
    in the first winky fight shane was actually despondent on his stool around round 4 before neither his chin nor his power were going to be major factors that night against winky - he'd rarely have chance to need either.