Mayweather-Mosley winner should be awarded the Ring WW Championship

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Crax Sellerman, Mar 24, 2010.


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    Ring needs to amend their rules to allow #2 and #3 matchups to contend for the title in situations like this when the Championship is vacant, and arguments can be made for both #2 and #3 to be #1.

    Shane's argument being he beat Margarito, Floyd's being that the only reason he's not still champion is his short retirement. I'd go so far as to say we (boxing fans) should petition them to consider this, but it'd probably be a waste of time.

    Consider that if Shane wins - though I don't expect him to - then he'd have beaten the last guy who was "the man" (Floyd) and the guy who was kind of almost "the man" (Margarito) and still won't be the Ring champion. Seems a bit unfair to me.
     
  2. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    No. It would delegitimize the championship if they gave it out when the top guys aren't cleared out. Klitschko had special circumstances, but that's about the only circumstance I can think of where it's okay. If the winner wants to be champ so bad, let them fight Pac afterwards.

    The ring titles are still all messed up from the last time they tried this kind of BS.
     
  3. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    This fight is for the true ww title, and the fans know it.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    they could have made cotto-margo for the welterweight championship back then but paul williams was still at the welter scene at the time. now, they could make it the winner of mosley-floyd the welter champion but pacquiao is rated #1 by them or at least #2 in some. as it is, they can make the winner the #1 ranked welter but not the champion until the winner fights pacquiao.
     
  5. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Who ever beats Floyd becomes the ww champ. If Pac ever beats Floyd, he becomes #1 pfp. Logic prevails...
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Floyd vs Mosley for the opportunity to face Pac in a WW supremacy showdown.
     
  7. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Being that PAc has not done Floyd's ppv numbers, has more losses, and has not beaten the true ww champ, the road goes through Floyd. Nobody is getting an opportunity to face Pac lol... **** out of here with that lol... Pac won't be getting 50-50 should Floyd beat Shane...
     
  8. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Didn't u and I have a long convo about this the other day....but I totally agree
     
  9. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    you been taking some of that a-side meth again?
     
  10. TheAlcatraz

    TheAlcatraz Member Full Member

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    In my opinion, the winner of Mosley v. Mayweather has to be considered the top welterweight. Mayweather, prior to his retirement after the Hatton fight in 2007, was the linear champ. It's was generally recognized that Cotto and Williams were the top welters thereafter. Williams was making forays into the jr. middleweights and middleweights because he couldn't secure fights at welter after Quintana 1 & 2. Cotto then faced Margarito in July of '08 and it was understood by most that the winner had the best claim to being the man. Margarito's victory had cemented in the minds of fans and writers that he was now the man to beat. A rematch with Williams didn't happen and Mosley stepped in and captured Margarito's belt and the perception that he was now number 1.
    While Williams and Pacquiao have had great wins in the division, neither man has beaten the legitimate linear champion (Mayweather), retirement notwithstanding; nor the fighter (Mosley) who has beaten the man considered at the time to be number one (Margarito).
    Therefore, it seems to me that the Mosley v. Mayweather winner has to be considered the true welterweight champion.
     
  11. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    I agree.
    But i don't care...
    As long as i see entertaining fights.
     
  12. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    mayweather is the WW champion anyway
     
  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    ok thank you
     
  14. bknystl

    bknystl Active Member Full Member

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    I think if Mayweather beats Mosely, he should regain his number 1 p4p status again as well. Mosely would be the 3rd consecutive person he's fought that was in the top ten p4p rankings. More importantly Marquez was number 2 and Mosely being the next guy down at number 3, and I can't remember exactly, but I think Hatton was 6 or 7 at the time of their fight. And of course the reason for Mayweather not being p4p is his brief retirement.
     
  15. TheAlcatraz

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    A strong argument can be made for this, for sure. Mayweather, if he can secure the victory in dominating fashion, will have captured the momentum in the debate. This is critical in my estimation. If he squeaks a victory over a past-his-prime Mosley, I don't think that it strengthens his claim.