mayweather never beat the best in any weightclass

It takes 2 to make a fight.

 

130 - Hernandez and Corrales were arguably the best at the time Floyd beat them, but he really would have got a challenge out of Joel Casamayor (and perhaps even Acelino Freitas) who he didn't fight

135 - I actually thought Stevie Johnston edged Castillo both times they fought, so in my mind at least, Stevie was still the best fighter at 135. Floyd also didn't fight Spadafora there, who may have posed some problems.

140 - Tszyu, Hatton, Cotto were all about. Floyd didn't face any of them

147 - Margarito was probably a slightly better fighter than Baldomir, though its not conclusive. In any case, right now, with Cotto, Mosley, Hatton and Williams in the division, there are plenty of guys better than that lot and Floyd is yet to face them

154 - Oscar was probably the best available, though Spinks probably has an argument.

 

hernandez and corrales were not ARGUABLY the best, they WERE the best.

Hernandez was the linear, undisputed champ, mayweather kayoed him in his second year as a pro. Corrales was undefeated, top 10 p4p fighter, mayweather kayoed him.

someone is ALWAYs going to hold some bull**** title, and someone will ALWAYS be in the top 10. you beat the man in the division to be the man.

 

Had Corrales faced Casamayor at the time? How do you know for sure that Corrales was better at that point? Corrales was more highly touted, I don't dispute that.

 

Carlos allready had 9 losses before he fought PBF,hence the reason PBF PICKED him...:yep

 

casa had just won an alphabet title! reread my post....someone will ALWAYS have a ****ING ALPHABET TITLE SOMEHWERE....these titles supposedly mean nothing, but once you have an agenda in your head, these guys are the most feared men in boxing.

Corrales had already beaten 4 future/former/present titlists and knocked out manfredy and was ranked as a top 10 p4pounder. Thats like comparing saying we dont know Ricky Hatton is the man at 140 b/c he hasnt fought Ricardo Torres.

 

or maybe it was because he was the undisputed welterweight champion of the world....some people love being morons

 

Straight off the bat, Corraless and Castillo were the best outside Floyd when he was at 130 and 135.

Baldormir, good or not, was still the no. 1 AT THE TIME Floyd beat him too.

That's 3 out of 5 right there, so not THAT bad. Furthermore, while it also doesn't mean THAT much, he's beating the best at 140 now (being 4 out of 5, but since its at 147, it isn't the same)

Another complete exaggeration about Floyd. :bart

 

Well, just say, to continue the analogy, that Ricky Hatton did subsequently face Rocardo Torres and lost. What then?

Casamayor did subsequently face Corrales and beat him.

That's the perils when you move out of a division too quickly, you sometimes leave fighters that are decent behind.

 

casa did not subsequently beat corrales, he beat corrales 4/5 years later, after mayweather tkod him and he lost two years of his prime in jail.

 

Could have fought Freitas, Casamayor, Grigorian, Spadafora, Hatton (at 140) and Cotto and Mosely at 147.

BUT

he did fight Chico, Hernandez, Castillo, Judah, De La hoya and hes fighting Hatton tommorrow...swings and roundabouts really, I dont think he has ducked anyone, he started at 135 and has been fighting naturally bigger men ever since.!

 

You might want to check up the defintion of 'subsequently'.

And despite Casamayor beating him nearly 4 years later, it's not as if Corrales was past his prime when he got out of jail.

The general point here, as far as I'm concerned, is that Floyd left question marks in every division he ever walked through. NO ONE can dispute that, unless they are a Floyd nuthugger.

The fact that he never unified a single division, to me, is very telling.

 

Castillo was king at 135, Floyd beat him.

Baldomir was king at 147 even though he wasn't very good, Floyd beat him.

Floyd was king at 130

 

subsequent-following in order or succession;

casa was nothing but a titleholder when corrales fought mayweather, while corrales and mayweather were on the p4p lists.

when casa fought corrales they were both lightweight contenders. different scenarios.

 

This argument is like people who say Lennox Lewis has a huge whole in his resume because he never fought Ruiz or Byrd.

Guys like Casa and Freitas, particularly at that time, were not much different that Jesus Chavez or Carlos Hernandez. And even if he had fought them they would have been what? the 10th or eleventh best win on record?

If the worst peole can say is he didn't fight those two, then, like those who argue Lennox Lewis was a ducker, they really make an argument for him.