Mayweather on Anderson Silva

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BOTH are champions ^

 

Why am I not surprised you don't know or respect King Arthur Williams?

 

..of course it is and you'd know that if he had any knowledge what so ever of the sport.

I don't believe I'v ever seen anyone land a decent punch on someone as there shooting in for a takedown, a knee yes sometimes if its timed well but a punch is next to impossible to land on a target moving that fast at that level.

 

You know nothing about it. Stop posting. Everything you think and say on this subject is massively uninformed.

 

It can be done, but it's sure as **** not easy. Even if you do catch them with a punch on the way in, odds are against you knocking them out or even stopping the takedown unless, as you said, you catch them with a nice knee to the chin. If you have no takedown defense, 99% of the time you're going down, and boxing won't help you at all from that point on. In fact it can hurt, because a boxer's instinct is to punch. If you punch up at a grappler, he's taking that arm right away and either going for the armbar or diving in for an arm choke.

 

I know I am a bit late in commenting on this.But this was really something really funny I have heard in a long time!:yep

 

And what would you know? Obviously nothing as far as I can see

 

Their are few MMA fighters that I have seen that posses devastating low kicks. Most MMA fighters could not stop a good boxer with them.

Most of what MMA fighters do in striking is a limited form of boxing ie. subpar defence, predictable punching combinations, no feints or setting up their punches. Anderson has made short work of these opponents.

Silvas boxing career has been less than spectacular. Anderson Silva is currently 1-1 in professional boxing, is it really that hard to believe he would lose to a skilled armature boxer within the sport of boxing?

 

THIS. MMA is great in theory, pocessing skillset sets in all arts.. but it doesn't work out too well when you're only learning the very limited part of them.

People believe boxing is 1-dimensional, but they couldn't be more wrong. The angles, distance, footwork, defense associated in it is mind-boggling. You may not be striking with your elbows, or feet in boxing but that does not mean they aren't a weapon (mayweather philly shell)

 

Actually, it is 1-dimensional when you bring it into mma because a lot of it is no longer practical. Bobbing and weaving will get you a knee through your dome, jab is no longer the safest blow it is now the low kick, mayweather shell only works vs gloved punches and leaves you open to takedowns, etc. There isn't much of a point in learning these skills if your only gonna compete in MMA.

MMA is still evolving and has plenty of room to grow in terms of the skills of its competitors. I think we will see truly great strikers in mma as it evolves. Mayweather is right about Anderson losing to a amatuer boxer but, he would beat that same amatuer at a muy thai, bjj, wrestling match etc.

 

Says who? Frankie Edgar dominated BJ Penn with his boxing, constant head movement and working the jab.

 

Roach admits that bobbing and weaving can get you caught in MMA.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/3/13/1371779/freddie-roach-talks-bj-penn

Freddie Roach talks BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, GSP and Fedor, plus Boxing vs. MMA.

 

Fair play, but head movement isn't essential. Not just ducking down

 

It won't protect you against a basic take-down either. MMA is very much about match-ups and fighting styles. Excessive bobbing and weaving against an MMA fighter with wrestling instincts won't get you very far. And leg kicks can absolutely change a stand-up fighter's striking approach. It doesn't have to be a flashy knockout kick to the head either.

An MMA fighter with even a modest low leg kick can keep his distance and systematically work on the opposing fighter's legs. Most of your punching power as you probably know is generated from your legs and pushing off of the ground when you throw. David Haye trained with MMA fighters before and commented on how the simple act of wrestling alone was so tiring that it dramatically weakened his punching strength. You soften up that base with multiple kicks and suddenly your punching power is ****. You also start to favor one side and reposition your stance to avoid further damage. That impact is felt in a hurry. None of this is a factor in a boxing match.

You can bob and weave in a boxing match because your area of defense is limited to above the waist only. You can zone out and hyper-focus on that particular region only. Not so in MMA. That's why it's ridiculous to compare an MMA fighter's striking abilities with a boxer (which boxing fans love to do). Of course your striking is going to be considerably better when that's all that you have to train for AND defend against.

When Rua defeated Machida, he did it mostly with leg kicks.

 

On the James Toney/Randy Couture fight. Just a reminder to some. Randy is actually older than Toney.

I remember Toney carrying on about how if anyone dared to take him down he'd instantly counter with an upper-cut and knock them out.

He said that he'd be the first to knockout a fighter from on his back.

He even claimed that he would never tap out.

All of this was wishful thinking on his part and when faced with reality it quickly became a whole new ball game.

Many times these theories might sound good on paper, but on paper only.