Mayweather Only Defends Combos He Seen

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  1. Sillig

    Sillig New Member Full Member

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    Hey guys I'm new too this forum but I been following boxing for a few years now and I been a little more than a casual spectator hence why I am on the forum. I am a fan of what Floyd May can do in the ring and really amped for this Canelo fight. I hope he can pull off the win.

    But after seeing this interview with Rashad Holloway he brought up some good points I never heard before about how Mayweather only defends what he knows about basic combinations thrown at him. It would behoove me that Mayweather doesn't know any advanced combinations.

    Here is the vid of the interview please discuss I would love to hear what you guys think
    youtu.be/ANzNCfnjCxc
     
  2. Sillig

    Sillig New Member Full Member

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    youtu.be/ANzNCfnjCxc
     
  3. at1

    at1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Explain
     
  4. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well ok, Juan manuel marquez it's one of the most skilled combination punchers we have in this era. Look at what happend in that matchup ;)
     
  5. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Guys don't throw combos on PBF and even if they do they don't land.:deal When was the last time you saw PBF get hit with a 3 shot combo?
     
  7. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holloway didn't say that the full combinations would land -- he was saying that you have to throw unusual combinations to land a good shot on Mayweather. Textbook stuff like the 1-2 to the head (or a 1-2 with a left hook after that) probably won't work. He said that Cotto was able to land his jab by mixing it up a little, throwing a jab, right, and then another jab when Mayweather expected the hook. Basically he's saying that if you change things up with the combinations, you can start landing a shot here and there, because Mayweather is hard-wired to roll and block conventional shots and combinations.

    With all that said, I disagree with him about Canelo winning. I just don't think he has the stamina or the workrate to pull off the strategy that Holloway is talking about. The video is interesting though, and I do like his ideas about what troubles Mayweather.
     
  8. Sillig

    Sillig New Member Full Member

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    Well I think the arguement is if a guy is always throwing diffrent combos at Floyd and mixing it up he has a better chance at landing a punch vs a guy who is throwing the usual punches and staying in a rhythm.
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Ok so all Canelo has to do is:
    1) Out-maneuver Floyd into a position where he can unload a combo
    2) Avoid Floyd's counter-punches
    3) Re-train his mind and body to throw unorthodox combos, and not the combos he's drilled into his mind for the past 20 years
    4) And then just do that over and over


    Yeah, not gonna happen :yep
     
  10. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    You can see it in Floyds movements when he boxes right hand up for that left hook, chin tucked under that shoulder so he can block or roll away from the right hand, and he picks off your jab with his right....

    When a fighter starts to throw shots at Floyd he rolls with the classic 1,2,3 which limits how often he gets hit. Halloway is correct you have to set up the shot with Floyd using throw away shots to set up the shot you intend to score.....
     
  11. Sillig

    Sillig New Member Full Member

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    This is exactly wht I was trying to describe in my last post but you did a way better job at it.

    I also agree with you that yeah Canelo fights in spurts never really a full round if you ask me. But what can make things risky for Floyd is that with Canelo "power" a few punches here and there might rattle him like Mosely did. Especially on how fast Canelo can throw punches.

    I personally think that Floyd wins by UD simply because Canelo can't keep up with Floyd's movement in the ring. even with Canelo constantly cutting off the ring he only works in spurts and the time he won't be working Floyd is going to be landing his shots.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I haven't watched the video i will do so now.
     
  13. Sillig

    Sillig New Member Full Member

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    I Think Floyd wins by UD. But playing Devils Advocate here

    1. Try to Bully Floyd onto the ropes
    2. Know that Floyd counter punches won't come in combos and just take the shot
    3. Try to unload new unorthodox combos you have been training for. It is possible to learn how to mix things up
    4. Yes do it over and over again until the fight is over
     
  14. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather was just too big for him. Marquez managed to get through with a few bombs that Mayweather shook of, he couldn't do that to the new Marquez.
     
  15. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo already throws unorthodox combos.