Mayweather-PAC: The stamina issue...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Xavier, Nov 26, 2009.


  1. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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    stamina wont be an issue for floyd maybe it will be for manny if floyd evades and counter punch him like marquez did
     
  2. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fighters are active against floyd . . . but they waste a lot of energy. He more than any other fighter is able to control the pace and location of a fight in a defensive posture especially if he uses his jab. In all three fights that were stated early PBF did not utilize his jab. JMM did control the pace, location, and distance against Pac. From memory I thought pac was tired against JMM in both fights but he could also have been a bit frustrated. I am HUGE fan of both PBf & Pac.
     
  3. the inbetweener

    the inbetweener Member Full Member

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    Some good points there. Floyd is not unbeatable. You know, it's funny, people like to say Manny has never faced anyone with Floyd's defence, speed, footwork, ring nous etc, but, what if, when that bell rings for the end of the 1st round, Floyd realises he's never faced anyone quite like Pacquiao.

    :think
     
  4. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I disagree,, there is a reason floyd adjusted well in the second fight , and the big reason he had grown stronger at 135 thin in his first encounter with JC.
    Also it has been mention Castillio came into the second fight 12 to 15 pound over the 135 limit and Floyd was injured in there first match.. So a stronger, faster floyd produced a different result when Castillio tried to apply pressure, but You don't really notice because of floyd's style.

    The only reason Hatton and Oscar had any success with pressure is because Floyd allowed Hatton and Oscar to spend their energy with the false hope they could KO him .. Just as cotto did against Pac he thought he could bull doze the smaller pac, just as hatton did before him..

    Pac and Floyd have shamed every fighter they have faced into thinking they were weaker then they really are. In each case fighters have said that Floyd hit harder then he lets on , and each fighter pac has faced has said stronger then he appears.

    Winning a battle is built on deception and these two guys have made it their bread butter, they count on fighters misjudging them.
     
  5. Simple100

    Simple100 Active Member Full Member

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    PAC has legendary stamina and great work rate
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very good points Pit! And I do agree with your comments......SEE....I can admit if I'm wrong. Look.....JLC was facing a Floyd who was injured....I believe a rib injury and you have to take that into account when considering how their first encounter went. Just b/c the 2nd encounter turned out much differnt. I think it could be a combination of a different gameplan and the fact Floyd was filling out and uninjured in the rematch.
     
  7. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never said you could not admit when your wrong, hell Im wrong alot:lol:

    I was wrong about pac, I know see he and floyd pretty much employ the same tactic , they allow their opponents to think they are weaker then they really are.
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think stamina will be an issue in this fight. This is a fight that goes the distance or by KO, don't think either man will be stopped for getting tired. Both have A class stamina and activity.
     
  9. milkman11

    milkman11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's because he was landing.
     
  10. vegasdude

    vegasdude Speed is Power! Full Member

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    There was an interesting video showing a different angle on Hatton's second knock down during round 1. He clearly had his HANDS UP but Manny PUNCH his gloves which hit his head and knocked him down...please find this video. Floyd can cover up but PAC still have the power to hurt him by hitting his gloves.
     
  11. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    these two guys never run out of gas. the difference is that pac throws a million punches and moves the entire fight. floyd moves too, but throw's far less. he also gets hit a lot less. we really haven't seen floyd's stamina tested except for in the castillo fights.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Hatton was already hurt in that sequence and also moving backwards. He kind of tumbled over.
     
  13. vegasdude

    vegasdude Speed is Power! Full Member

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    Found it... check out 2:18 to 2:22... I guess you be the judge.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrqC3qPXzaA[/ame]
     
  14. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac has zero stamina issue. Void has a chicken issue though. Void refused to fight Pac before the Cotto fight.
     
  15. killa

    killa Active Member Full Member

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    A friend of mine who helps train fighters at the gym I train at made a great point. He said that Floyd taking many of the recent fights where he dictated pace and was never pressured(easy nights work for him in other words...opponents who simply lacked the tools to threaten Floyd) could very well be his undoing. In a fight against an opponent who can effectively get to Floyd and remove him from the relaxed comfort zone he is so accustomed to, he might not be MENTALLY prepared for that. Having tough fights gets a fighter mentally prepared for high pressure situations where poise and quick thinking are essential. If Floyd hasn't had to deal with this in quite some time, it could come back to haunt him when the screws are really tightened on him where he has to dig deeper than has ever been required of him.

    SRL having to bite down and become the aggressor against the surprisingly effective puncher turned boxer in Hearns was a great example. We'll never know until Floyd is brought to that very lonely place where only you can save yourself. Here's hoping for his sake that taking many recent fights against guys he had no doubts he'd eventually gain/maintain control over doesn't come back to haunt him. The only preparation for handling that place is being brought there. Floyd's sublime skills so far have stopped that from happening