Mayweather/Pacquiao negotiations officially begin

I agree. He looked like a different fighter in the JMM fight, then he did with Hatton and Hoya. Just look at his footspeed and hand speed. It was incredible.

 

I agree. When Cotto can't hurt you and gets hits back he starts to retreat. PBF will clinch Pac and fight him on the inside.

 

lmao...

 

You're a moron...first of all, why don't you ask DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Manny Steward, or anyone else who has watched Pac's last 3 fights to find a weakness of Pacs...you won't find one against another welterweight besides Paul Williams. The only way you'll find an obvious weakness is if you look before his fight with DLH and those are completely irrelevant at this point in his career because he is a different fighter.

Now, as for Floyd, if you actually took reading comprehension in school you could see that I stated that Floyd would fight Mosley before Pac because it is a safer style match-up for Floyd. Mosley, despite all of his obvious gifts has never been an effective aggressor. Mosley would just be following him around all night while eating pot-shots. It would be a one sided UD for Floyd.

All of the time you spent coming up with weaknesses in the Pac arsenal was completely wasted because they are completely outdated. He is not the same fighter we saw in the ring with JMM. He now boxes at angles, he has the ability to take a real welterweight punch, and has displayed the ability to counter and fight backing up, and if he fought a third fight with JMM he would easily KO him within 3 rounds.

If Floyd ever fights Pac, which I don't believe he will, his fans had better hope he's not as ignorant about boxing as you are.

"School's in session", my ass. You are like a child. You don't know **** about the sport...you only see what you want to see. You are a nuthugging loser, and this is the absolute final time I am wasting my energy exchanging with a moron like you.

Have a nice day!!:hi:

 

You're an idiot!! I don't care enough about Floyd to hate him...you are like a child, dude.

I am simply stating this by Floyd's selection of opponents since the JLC fights. Since those troublesome fights for Floyd, he has made calculated decisions and has not chosen to fight the "best that's out there".

Shall i break it down for you? You know, I'm not going to waste my time...you're an idiot.

 

i see what your saying. basically floyd is looking for an. many people feel that way. but there may be to much pressure for floyd to take the fight. some experts have already said that if it takes place, it would be the most lucrative boxing event in the history of the sport! thats amazing!!!:nut

 

Styles make fights...boxing doesn't equivicate to "a" beats "b" and "b" beats "c" so logically "a" beats "c".

I don't understand why Floyd fans think if someone criticizes Floyd, then they're obviously haters. You guys need to get off of this...it's like assuming that everyone is a racist that doesn't like rap music...it's immature.

Take it for what it is...boxing forum debate and discussion.

 

i think the boxing world realizes how Floyd is. How calculated his decision making is, and the media is trying to put him in check mate. The world really wants to see this fight.

 

delahoya was unarguably the toughest fight for him at 154lbs when Floyd challenged him. Also Hatton was unarguably the best 140lber in the world when Floyd fought him. Zab Judah was viewed as one of, if not the toughest fight for him at the time also due to his speed and athleticism. Baldo was the linear Welterweight champion.

* Don't even try and bring up the Baldomir loss with Judah, the fight was already being negotiated and even after that loss Judah was viewed as one of the best Welters in the world and stylistically the toughest fight for Floyd.

 

he's clueless?? he beat cotto almost as bad as marg did, if not worse, and without any illegal subst in his gloves. and he's waaay smaller than marg. and please dont tell me its because of the 2 lbs he had to drop. even emmanuel stewart, who was going 4 cotto, said that the 2 lbs meant nothing (para phrasing). so please dont go there.

btw, manny will win.:bbb

 

You're really ****ing stupid. You didn't refute a single one of my points in my post. His weaknesses are outdated?:rofl Log off now man before I expose your basic level of understanding of this sport once again. So I guess when I saw Pac just blindly following Cotto around and not cutting the ring off I was just seeing things right?atsch Look man I know boxing you don't the stuff you say doesn't even make sense half of the time. Pac can't cut off the ring fact. Pac can't fight on the inside fact. Pac comes in off balanced with his head down fact. Pac doesn't go to the body fact. Pac doesn't have a jab fact. Pac has problems dealing with counter-punchers fact. None of these flaws are outdated and will be exploited by PBF with ease. Just because you can't see these obvious flaws don't think anyone else can't. But what else can I expect from a guy who said PBF doesn't fight southpaws and still doesn't realize PBF is a stylistic nightmare for Pac.:-(

You're nothing but a guy whose seen a couple of fights and thinks he knows boxing, says dumb **** and thinks he won't be called out for his inaccurate information. Guess what? I'm calling you out for the bull**** that you've been posting for the better part of a week and will continue to do so.:hi:

 

No doubt...without question Floyd will be a harder puzzle to figure out. The speed and athletic ability will be hard, but physically he won't present the kind of struggles that he faced with a bigger foe, whos' more aggressive than Cotto. I'm sure PAC won't fight the same kind of fight with Floyd that he applied in his fight with Miguel. Floyd doesn't punch as hard as Cotto either so while he'll be struggling with the speed and elusiveness of Floyd he'll have less to worry abut in terms of getting busted up.

 

PAC did adapt...you see it when he went to the ropes to lure Cotto in and counter off the ropes! PAC showed he can adpat which speaks more to different game plans that Roach had worked with him on during camp. The Jab worked well only when PAC stood in front of Cotto baiting him to open up so he could counter. Cotto's "D" is good, but not good enough for a fighter like PAC. PAC also began countering with the right hook over the jab making the adjustment when he was eating the jabs early on.

 

True but he'll have a whole nother problem which is even bigger, getting outboxed and not being to do anything about it.

 

PAC has two feet and two hands. The only way he won't be able to do anyting about Floyd's offense is if he had his hands and feet tied up. PAC will not be completely dominated and outboxed like many of you think! He'll have a good game plan and his natural ability and gifts will make it a very compettive fight. Im sure Floyd will outbox Manny in spots, but PAC will out fight Floyd in spots as well.