Mayweather-pacquiao negotiations timeline part 2

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    they were not sued because they demanded OSDT. the lawsuit was the product of team's floyd media allegations before and during the negotiations.

    no one is even quoting that no full testing no fight from floyd when the 2nd negotiations started. it just came-up after floyd took-off from floyd fans trying to make this as his excuse retroactively even though floyd has not mentioned this as his reason for taking a vacation.

    floyd was not actually interested on the outcome of the negotiations between haymon, greenburg and arum. he is all set not to fight for the year after earning big on mosley. the thing is, he just wasted the time of all parties especially when oscar said that the negotiations are close to being made.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The truth is right there...

    Mayweather puts out ultimatum on testing. Arum and Pac lie constantly about testing while using the publicity to sell sub standard fights to *******s.

    To this day Pac's position on testing is unknown. Even within the circles of his fans.
     
  3. Blud_Shot_Eyez

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    Just more games from the Pacquiao camp.... He never agreed to get full randomly tested. So why even negotiate? I see why Floyd went on vacation, too many games from team Pacquiao.

    Floyd made it easier for them now. No cut off dates when getting randomly drug tested.... so why are they still discussing cut off dates?
     
  4. xizor

    xizor Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My Challenge to all the haters of the article.
    produce a article with all the missing info in chronological order. Use only the missing info that is from some one in the camp not speculation and is actually pertinent to making clear how the negotiations took place. Until then this article is on point and so far the definitive word on how the negotiation went down.
     
  5. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    I'm just saying that the one thing that Manny could have done to make Floyd stick around was agree to full testing. But I concede. Floyd wanted to go spend his millions instead of getting back in the ring. Your right, there isn't much to dispute that at this point.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

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    Just stop. Nobody said anything worse than any other hype build up. "Magical A-side meth" and "supplements"? Or the even more damning, "they have great PED's in PI"? Seriously, you guys need to come off of it. That lawsuit is a PR stunt to keep your eyes off of Pac's test dodging.

    What are you talking about? If a person states and ultimatum you MUST wait to let time prove it to be true or false. When Pac failed to agree to testing the SECOND time we all realized that the ultimatum held. The sad part is that Pac lied and hid his position on testing and got busted by Koncz on HBO 24 7 leaving all of his fans saying he "agreed to everything"..

    He had no reason to be. The ultimatum has not changed and Pac hasn't stopped lying. The sad part is that even though you see Pac lying you don't have either the intelligence or heart to actually accept what the facts are telling you! :lol:
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    yep that's why as much i see the article as still bias in favor of floyd, ben thompson can just make the drug testing as an excuse. he could not hide the fact that floyd is out to spend his money and take a leave.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

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    Huh? There were no fighters out there on the horizon. There were ZERO super fights.

    -- Williams - Went to 154 and looked to get a "gift" against Martinez
    -- Mosley - #1 was demolished
    -- Margarito - Suspended for cheating (still is in CA)
    -- Berto - Earthquake
    -- Kahn - Not ready
    -- Bradley - Moved up to 147 and looked blah.
    -- Clottey - Still in hiding after that fixed fight
    -- Cotto - No way


    There were no fights available that made sense as he had beaten the best and other guys were either above or below weight.

    Come on. Don't sit there agreeing/conceding to complete nonsense for kumbaya's sake. :bart
     
  9. bald_head_slick

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    Only a ******* can see a source provided timeline as "biased"! :lol:
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    so you actually deny floyd, floyd sr., roger and delahoya taking on the media route to accuse pacquiao of using PEDs before and while negotiations are on-going?

    before the 2nd negotiations, all fans are excited on the prospect of the fight happeneing. they agree that there should be a gag order to prevent using the media for their own selfish propaganda. everyone is prepared for the two parties to settle even the durg testing cut-off. we know that floyd wants no cut-off and pac stayed on his compromise of 24 days cut-off before the 2nd negotiations. negotiations happened, all we know was that pac conceeded his stance. meanwhile all we heard from floyd was him taking off and want to have his vacation.

    you have to be more open-minded to see that the issue here is not the drug testing but floyd's willingness to negotiate and/or fight for the 2nd half of the year.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    ben thompson + fight hype = floyd's mouthpiece
    you should have known more. :lol:
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    during floyd's "vacation time", he stated that he wants the martinez-williams winner, what happened to that?
     
  13. Divi253

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    Puga needs help.. Didn't all of you Pac fans want the second negotiations timeline to be shown?! Where are you now? Must have forgot what ACTUALLY happened when you were requesting it huh?

    Also... Floyd took the leave because Pac wouldn't agree to the tests without cutoff...
     
  14. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    It's pointless arguing with *****s coz there really isn't anything to argue about. They just spin things around to make it seem like they have a valid argument to begin with.

    Oh well. The only Floyd fan who accused pac of using peds that I actually talked to in real life came by 2 weeks of telling him to read articles written by non biased journalists back in 2010 realized that floyd really doesn't want to fight Pac. **** I have never met anybody ( blacks and filipinos and hispanics ) who think Pac is ducking Floyd. They all say Floyd is just too scared to lose his 0.

    Only *****s and their alts seem to be the only folks who think otherwise.
     
  15. bald_head_slick

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    Yes. Provide me sources of that nonsense. Not some inferred BS either. Them saying Pac is using XYZ PED. You can't.

    Now you are just lying. Pac openly said he agreed on 14. Pac's team was later busted on HBO offering 7 days. Are you denying this?

    By the time of the fight (or soon after) there were vids floating around of him joking about testing between rounds. Pac is always sending out mixed messages about testing.

    There is no "open mindedness" required to see Pac won't agree to the ONLY disputed negotiation point. If you then extrapolate, "If not Pac then who?" you QUICKLY get your answer why Mayweather wasn't active in Boxing. There was literally nobody left to fight.

    This is further evidenced/backed up by Pac fighting a suspended known cheat and a leftover who looked like complete crap fighting to a draw vs a guy who couldn't win on FNF. If there were so many "good" fights to make why didn't "active" Pac make them? Right.

    This timeline shows exactly what fans who aren't orbiting Pacanus have been saying all along. To call a sourced timeline "biased", is just silly.