There are 5 ways of looking at these figures: Gross PPV - Pac is ahead Common Opponents - Floyd is ahead Including DLH (Average PPV per fight) - Floyd is ahead Not Including DLH (Average PPV per fight) - Very close Last fight PPV Numbers - Pac is ahead Pick one or two whichever suits your agenda but we shouldn't let these two bitches get away with not fighting each other.
The PPV's for Pacquiao's last two fights have not been released or confirmed by anybody other than Arum.
No its quite clear that Mike Tyson-Evander Holyfield-Lennox Lewis era extended from around 88-2003, all 3 were involved in the biggest PPV fights against each other and others. Holyfield and Tyson combined for over $1 Billion in PPV money, and Lewis shares the stage with Tyson for the biggest PPV event in history(which was cracked by Mayweather-De La Hoya). So you got your numbers 3rd hand from another ******* and went through the process of making an entire argument and graph to support your argument, based on this? yet you criticize the use of Google. Mayweather-Hatton did more than 900K, that in fact it completely shattered UK PPV box office at the time. Try upping your number to around 2M. If you want to be more exact take the price of the fight in the UK, 14.95(UK Pound), and convert it over to US dollars at the time, then determine the percent that the UK fans paid for the fight and multiply it by the modified amount of PPVs they purchased. Which gives me about 650K modified PPV coming in from the UK. Which makes Mayweather hatton about 1.5M PPV, through that equation. But I'll be the first to admit the equation leaves much to be desired and is based on believing the UK and USA based fans are roughly the same and will order fights due to price at a rate proportionate to price if all things are held equal. As for them not being the a side against Oscar, fine. But once again, if Oscar did all this by himself why isn't every one of his fights against anyone not him making 2.4M ppv? He did it by himself, according to you. Yes, he owns it with Mayweather and Pacquiao, Just like Ricky Hatton's name is mentioned for their fight A couple of things about your logic. Lets extrapolate it backwards, Felix Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya happened in 1999, so does that mean Felix has no fans even though he was the only reason the Middleweight Championship Series ever happened? But once again why has Oscar done these numbers if he owns PPV in your mind: 1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million 2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million 3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million 4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million 5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million 6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million 7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million 8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million 9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million 10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million 11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million 12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million 13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million 14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million 15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million 16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million 17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million Every time he fights a nobody, he puts up between 200K and 600K, when he fights a big name fighter, he puts up 700K to 1.4M(where Pacquiao falls), and when he fights Mayweather he breaks the counting machine. Why is that if he doesn't need help? If the b-side doesn't matter. Please the only people with that Motto are idiots. Ortiz does get some credit, if he looked like complete garbage and not an action star against Berto, he would have never gotten the Fight with Mayweather. Let alone the chance to be the canvas for which Mayweather sold the fight. Also, with your logic mind telling me the A-side of these fights: This content is protected This content is protected The first Rocky movie just needed an Italian who could play a convincing journeyman boxer. It didn't need Sly. He held onto it, because he knew he created a great character, not that the character needed him. It only became Rocky needing Sly Stallone when he became infused with the character. Once again, if Oscar is the selling point and Floyd could have been replaced with Bozo the clown, why didn't Oscar get the same level of PPV buys with other fighters? No it isn't. Its very easy to quantify which teams draw in the viewers for championships and which teams don't. Look at the series with the highest viewer totals. Finals involving San Antonio has been on the bottom of barrel of NBA Finals viewers. If Jordan did it by himself, then where are his titles without Scottie? Same with Dwayne? Where are his titles without Help. He did it by himself according to you. Once again, if he was just a participant why did this fight, none of Oscar's other fights, broke the Richter scale of PPVs.? Good For you.
Check the #'s since oscar-they hit far higher #'s since fighting oscar and it shows here- mayweather ppv de la hoya 2.4 hatton 920k jmm 1.05 mosley 1.4 ortiz 1.3 7,025,000 in 5 fights=1,405,000 average manny pacquiao de la hoya 1.2 hatton 850k cotto 1.2 clottey 750k (debatable-could be more or less) margarito 1.15 mosley 1.3 jmm 1.5 7,950,000 in 7 fights-1,135,714 average
Do total PPVs sold per year over the last 3 years.. Yea, STFU. you're pathetic. This is pretty funny though.
Rafael answered my question about the extra revenue of a customized statment in today's chat. ariel (mo) Dan how is Arum supposed to get an extra 40 million from 20,000 seats in a stadium, since approximately 75% of the profit comes from PPV revenue? 20,000 more seats= 40 million? What am I missing here as revenue? Dan Rafael (1:04 PM) The math is fiction.
u dummy-thats since 2007..ITS THE PPV #'S SINCE OSCAR- OSCAR WAS WHEN BOTH FIGHTERS NUMBERS WENT WELL ABOVE THE PREVIOUS #'S THI FUKIN IDIOT-EVEN DOING THEM FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS U'D HAVE FLOYD WITH A HIGHER AVERAGE:deal OWNED YA *****hi:
SDS is not even worth the time man. You kept calling me a ******* when all I was doing was saying the truth. Now look at you. Just face the facts. Mayweather signed a deal with Golden Boy to fight for them on May 5th. He was not gonna fight Pac. He was probably gonna fight Khan. If not Khan than definitely an in-house opponent. Khan got jobbed by Peterson in his hometown. That ****ed up PBF's plans. Then Floyd tried to do what he always does which is throw **** at Pac and try to make him look bad because he is ****in jealous. Pac doesn't give a ****. He doesn't even need Floyd but he's still making concessions left right and center to fight him. Pac is a mutha****in G. Just admit it.
Here ya go since you enjoy statistics so much... here's one for you. One that is more indicative to why this is a 50/50 fight. Floyd Mayweather 2009 total PPVs sold - 1.05M 2010 total PPVs sold - 1.4M 2011 total PPVs sold - 1.3M Manny Pacquiao 2009 total PPVS sold - 2.05M 2010 total PPVS sold - 1.82M 2011 total PPVs sold - 2.8M Whats your point? Do you just want to show how you have the brain of a teenage fanboy? Or do you honestly believe this fight should not be 50/50? Which is it?
average the total fights out man-u can't go off full numbers -AVERAGE IT OUT:deal..EACH FIGHT. AND IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER-THE "CHANGING POINT" WAS OSCAR FOR BOTH MEN- WOULD U LIKE TO SEE THE PREVIOUS NUMBERS BEFORE OSCAR SO I CAN PROVE MY POINT:deal