Mayweather-Pacquiao superfight nearly finalized for March 13

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  1. Charlie Z

    Charlie Z Don't hurt me Oleg Full Member

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  2. El_Rey

    El_Rey First in Last out Full Member

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  3. Rooney

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    I would bet a lifetime ban that manny gonna get his ass whooped
     
  4. Rooney

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    Nah i dont wanna hear that, like you said they ask for a may date, pac didnt want it, he wanted march, they giving him march now, lets pray Arum gets pac to sign the papers.

    Something tells me in manila pac will stall.
     
  5. scatterbrain

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    If your are saying that pac will be KOed, i will take you up on that bet.

    if Pbf does not win via KO, :hi::hi::hi: fool.
     
  6. mancat

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    12% connect rate for the total fight for Marquez. can you explain what you mean by alot?
     
  7. HyperBone

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    this fight will definitely happen.
     
  8. Sting

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    That "everyone" you talk about that Floyd fought didn't know how to exchange nor had the inclination to punch back while getting punched. That's why PBF had it easy with them because most of his opponents were used to getting their way in that if they punch while not getting punched they will continue punching, BUT if they suddenly get hit they most often reset their offense, which was advantageous to PBF. Pac is in the mold of a Morales, Barrera and Marquez in that they don't care if you hit them, they'll most definitely hit you back and in Pac's case its in punches in bunches witha accuracy behind it. PBF has rarely dealt someone like that in his carreer. He needs to atleast match half of Pac's punch output to back him up, otherwise 1 or 2 punches will only get him overwhelmed, the best at counterpunching or not.

    As for the "attributes" Pac lacks.

    He applies very good educated pressure mate, I thought the Cotto fight showed that pretty clearly, he was always on Cotto's face, pressuring him most of the time but he would always pick his spots, he doesn't just bull rush his way in anymore just like before. He has head-movement to give his opponent's angles, he also has amazing foot speed to close the gap quickly and get out quickly as well, and you'll notice he most often doesn't overdo it when throwing punches. He would throw 3-4 combos then get out. He sees an opening he throw punches again. He doesn't see an opening he would stay out and wait for an opening or make it himself. As for the jab, I admit he lacks the jab to keep Floyd honest, no arguments from me and that's one of the reasons why Floyd will make the fight hell for Pac. Cutting the ring? I'm sorry I disagree the Cotto fight showed he was pretty good at cutting the ring, especially at the championship rounds when Cotto started dancing away from him(which FYI, Floyd doesn't do). He lacks Inside Work? Not really. He's a mid-range type of fighter, but his inside work is very good as well. Having those wars with Morales, Barrera and Marquez in close trenches says a lot already. If this 147lb version of Floyd goes inside against Pac, he'll get knocked out. Body-punching I concede, Pac doesn't employ it often enough. He's actually a good body-puncher when he actually employs it, but yeah he doesn't do it nearly enough. As for Counter-punching, your kidding right? That is NOT how you beat Floyd. You try to box/counter-punch with Floyd, that will be the biggest mistake you'll ever make. Pressure was always the best way, I mean atleast it had some success against him compared to boxing.

    You have a pretty good analysis I admit. Short but good nonetheless. Only thing I disagree completely is how Floyd will school Pac. That's not gonna happen as far as I'm concerned. Nobody, including your post, has yet to actually give a concrete and educated analysis as to why is that. Floyd can most definitely beat Pac. But school him, not at all. Your hyping up Floyd's attributes while completely downgrading Pac's. Not fair bro.
     
  9. Sting

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    Precisely. A better post than mine.

    :good
     
  10. Alo2006

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    If u been betting against Mayweather his whole career, u be lifetime banned yourself :deal
     
  11. Sting

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    Another very good post.

    Honestly I thought I was all alone in this. The Floyd fans would always have their analysis as to how Floyd will beat Pac. But I rarely see Pac fans, if at all, do the same.

    Keep doing what your doing josak and eliqueiros. Your doing a great job. I hope the more educated Pac fans would do the same. Its always nice to have great debates, especially as big a fight as this.
     
  12. WeezyF27

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    the educated pac fans know that manny is going to get his ass beat.. honestly there is no way you can argue that manny can beat Floyd
     
  13. Sting

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    Me and 2 others just argued about it.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    Good post but I would like to see you address the reach issue which will be key. Pac has never fought anyone like PBF before he's used to guys that are there to be hit. He's not used to slick defensive counter-punchers with a defense first mentality it will drive and aggressive fighter like him nuts.

    Countering is very important against PBF and you gain PBF's respect by doing so. The educated pressure that Zab put on PBF was the type of pressure needed in order to beat him. If you watch that fight the first 3 rounds or so. Zab just didn't come in guns blazing he's a natural counter-puncher. He worked behind a jab picked his shots and looked to counter PBF. This threw PBF off because he wasn't used to it. He was taken back abit by Zab's handspeed and accurate one-shot power. This is the type of educated presuure I'm talkig about. Not the type Manny brings. I still argue that he can't cut the ring off he just follows you around which is the worst thing to do against PBF and he will be picked apart by a guy who can fight going backwards doing so.

    Manny IMO gets hit too much he lacks a jab, reach and PBF will find him all day. The real question is will Manny's offense be effective on PBF's defense.
     
  15. sdsfinest22

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    good post....:good