>>> Mayweather-Pacquiao, who ducked who this time? <<<

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    lmfao-*******s tryin to be in full damage control-u guys are comedy-Poll speaks for itself-

    On other forums the poll #'s are even more lopsided in Floyd's favor-

    Casual fan also believes Pac is to blame as do most of the media.

    Keep trollin fellaz-been nice owning you in here-very easy to own your arguments-they are filled with holes.
     
  2. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The intelligent majority know that's not how you do business. You're not part of that intelligent majority.
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    u can argue that all day Pugi-but the Oscar fight is measured is what I'm tellin u-YOU REALLY THINK ELLERBE AND HAYMON NOT GONNA PRESENT THOSE NUMBERS:deal

    Of course they are used in "COMMON OPPONENTS"...A side or B side is not even relevant.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    :huh

    pac-marquez3 sold 1.41M PPVs
    floyd-marquez sold 1.05M PPVs
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    fuk your insults *******-i'll never meet u-

    in the mean time look at the poll threads in this forum and others-

    you'll find that Pac is to blame by most fans.:deal

    your fault try again little dude-

    Damn owning these *******s is fukin easy:rofl

    Easy to own an argument that doesn't have much to back it-at least Pugi tries-u just insult bro.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    and recent fights are more relevant in this case. you are using the oscar fight to justify floyd's offer of $40M when this fight could earn much more. meanwhile pac offered a fair 50/50 split. or is it not a fair split in your opinion?
     
  7. sdsfinest22

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    :patsch

    coming off a 2 year lay off in a fight that wasn't very big-

    Now lets include all common opponents and not just use this BIAS argument

    show me De La Hoya, Mosley, n Ricky.

    Pac-Marquez 3 had a bigger story behind it as well:deal...with that said u made your point there..

    Now present all the numbers and not just the BIAS ONES.


    SEE THIS IS A STRAIGHT "******* POST" RIGHT HERE-ONLY SHOWS #'S IN RELATION TO FAVOR HIS ARGUMENT.
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Looking at recent fightS-YOUR RIGHT-..

    So lets look at revenue generated cuz that is what is actually "made"...Floyd has generated more revenue than Manny in each of his fights-

    furthermore Floyd's opponents make more fighting Floyd than they do fighting Pacquiao:deal

    Floyd generates more revenue man-I've posted sources on it many times-

    I believe the 3 highest revenue fights are

    De La Hoya-Mayweather
    Ortiz-Mayweather
    Mosley-Mayweather

    Don't see Pac on that list...
     
  9. Uncle Roger

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    but what does that have to do with anything? Floyd makes more money, and you are acting like you are getting a cut of the PPV revenues:lol::patsch.
     
  10. Bladegunner

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    This poll ain't going to plan piguanani
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    aside from dela-hoya, hatton and mosley PPVs are not too far off. you are arguing that floyd should get more based on this 50k more buys when their PPVs are worth million buys.

    i can understand if floyd demands the lion share against guys like cotto but pac is an equally solid draw and have recently been drawing more than floyd. 50/50 for a fight of this magnitude is just fair. most floyd fans also has no issue with the 50/50 split before until floyd demanded more this time.
     
  12. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I don't think either want this fight that bad. Oscar made these guys into superstars, but when there's a real challenge they don't want to take it! Floyd latches on with the 2.4 million ppv actin like it was him when it was because of Oscar excuse and uses that for leverage for the Pacquiao fight. Meanwhile, Pacquiao isn't bold enough to think for himself and is a puppet of Arum. If only Pacquiao and Floyd had Marquez's balls they woulda fought already. I bet for 20 million Marquez would fight Maravilla or Andre Ward. Even tho I dislike *******s I respected Manny still do, but he needs to grow a pair. After his performance vs Marquez he's lucky to get 40 mil. Bradley is a high risk he shoulda just fought Floyd.
     
  13. sdsfinest22

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    nope pugi, not using the Oscar fight buddy-IM USING THE TOTAL AVERAGE PPV BUYS AND THE FACT THAT FLOYD MAKES MORE AND HIS OPPONENTS MAKE MORE THAN PAC'S OPPONENTS.

    SEE, now u trying to assume what I"m saying..not using the Oscar fight at all.I'm using the average buys from a COMMON FACTOR WHERE BOTH FIGHTERS CAREER CHANGED-

    CHECK BOTH FIGHTERS PPV #'S B4 AND AFTER OSCAR FOR SOURCE PUGI:deal

    Bro, deal with it-the Oscar #'s are there-u can't just delete em-again-Floyd is the bigger draw-

    I already said in another thread there should be enough money for a 50/50..but Pac opening his mouth and saying he'll take less-Floyd is not the type to let you slip on what you say in the business side of this..as u can see, he expected Manny to do everything he SAID HE WOULD.:good

    Pugi this is entertaining..please keep coming with your little rebuttals..very easy picking on your argument:deal
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    are you ******ed? i'm answering another poster's post saying pac didn't do well against any common opponents.
     
  15. sdsfinest22

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    ok so what are those #'s pugi?

    DONT take Oscar out-that shows your bias:deal-It makes the numbers look fake-Oscar is the common factor and they do use those numbers in looking at common opponents.

    YOU CANT JUST SAY "WELL IM A PAC FAN AND I'M NOT INCLUDING THE OSCAR NUMBERS."

    You may not like that they are included when negotiating and using "common opponents" or a "common factor" but best believe Haymon and Ellerbe are using them and Arum is not challenging it-:deal

    I ALREADY AGREED IN TONS OF THREADS THAT THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY ON THE TABLE FOR A 50/50-THAT IS NOT THE DEBATE BUDDY:thumbsup