>>> Mayweather-Pacquiao, who ducked who this time? <<<

we having a good debate bro!:good

 

I accidentally chose Floyd. But I dont think either ducked anyone. Pacquiao is just mentally a child and Bob Arum controls everything he does.


Arum is th loving father of Pacquiao, so all the blame falls on him. Im not gonna castigate a infant for the actions of his parent?

 

Puga is still clinging on to the 50/50 despite Pacquiao's promoter refusing to answer the phone to Richard Schaefer to negotiate the fight.

 

arum is a tool,he wont let pac lose until floyd is the only one left for pac to fight and make money from.

we need to make sure these pac and floyd fights vs other boxers DO not sell well and force the public ect to make arum et al get this fight done soon. and hbo ect will force them to make it happen by not buying the fights for floyd/pac vs other non opponents opponents.

the actual fight should it happen it wont be a good fight,itle be either domination from one side with the other hopeless or tense with little action and both countering each other for stopping much action from actually happening.

but it has to happen to see who is the better one vs each other (even though i think resume for resume pac can be seen as the better fighter over the stretch of his career for opponents and entertainment,while floyds fought good and some great fighters but hasnt been as entertaining and consistent with activty of fights a year)

 

Pugi I have posted what I believe many times-Quit trying to analyze it, to make it look like how u want it to look buddy-

The debate is done, u have my info an du were pretty much schooled and your argument was picked apart-

The first negotiation is a different issue buddy-your jumping everywhere.

Ima take my win in this debate though K-We'll do another one again-

to answer your question, no that is not what i'm saying but it does have something to do with it...

As for the split the first time around-the numbers were not nearly as lopsided in Floyds favor for PPV's...

Pugi you lost this one..take ya L and move on with it little buddy!:good

Good debate though-u just dont have the sources etc to back up what your saying-u just speculate and take out different items (such as Oscar) at your leisure-Sorry buddy but don't work like that.

 

there is very little correlation between what most fans think and what is the truth

 

bro-look at what Floyd did with Ortiz-Bradley is undefeated and they could sell that to the casual fan easy-

Casual fan does not want a Pac Cotto 2-that fight was not in demand and either is Pac-Bradley:deal

u dont get that Floyd is a bigger draw than Pac bro-if you wont accept that, as the ppv averages show (Oscar or not) then its pointless to debate with you cuz you can't accept "facts" and "sources" as they are-

U manipulate EVERYTHING to make it look like Pac is never in the wrong-

Your argument was owned Pugi-Not sure what else to tell u-Nobody wants cotto pac 2 and nobody really wants pac bradley-

pac was exposed to the casual fan, in his last fight against JMM-Most fans believe JMM won that fight, thus Pac has lost his "stardom" as he was made to look ordinary-u may not think that but most fans do..get it now man..

fuk bro, i see why people tell me not to debate with you-u dont even accept ACTUAL FACTS AND SOURCES PRESENTED TO U:deal

 

LOL-WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL SOURCES AND FACTS BEHIND IT, IT ACTUALLY DOES.:deal

Most fans blamin Pac cuz he and his team were exposed:deal

They were exposed for not being as talented nor as skilled as people though in the JMM 3 fight-

They were exposed for not wanting the Floyd fight in these negotiations.

Sorry bro but anyone who uses a drug test for 2 years to not fight someone, clearly is hiding something-thats another debate all together though and i've already won one debate in this thread Philla..

keep trying though-u might actually put up a good argument in relation to all this, one day.:deal

 

lol you must be the record holder for self-proclamed debate wins.

Arum is a promoter, he has a promotional contract with Pac. His rival promoter signs contracts with a venue and with the networks and broadcasters on a specific date (May 5th)... and then tells Arum "Your fighter will fight in our venue, on our show, on our date... the contracts are already signed."

Arum is supposed to do what? say yes?

And then Floyd says to Pac "Your side will get a flat fee, regardless of how well the fight does you will get paid the same amount. Basically we will promote the fight and you can sit on the sidelines and collect your check."

You expect Arum to accept that? if you do, you're stupid. The guy is one of the most successful promoters in the history of the sport, and you expect him to sit on the sidelines for the highest grossing fight in history.

don't be a fool mr. debate king.

 

see what im saying-this is all irrelevant buddy-your debate is done bro-lmfao-

so now go look at every fight since Oscar, for both men..average out the numbers.

If u dont know how to do that lemme teach u-first add up the total amount of each fighters PPV buys-then divide by the number of fights k..

:good

u guys makin it easier and easier cuz you simply ignore certain items.

 

and that is your opinion..I disagree-I think the truth shows in most of these polls on these forums.

The poll #'s are even more in favor of Floyd in other forums:deal

so u have your opinion on the "most fans think"..im simply tellin u, your opinion is not near the majority-no where close even:deal