i've seen Floyd do his speed/defense drill with Roger on the pads and the pads, and I jsut watched a video of these English Cats doing it: [YT]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rGy_YUir5Ww&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rGy_YUir5Ww&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YT] as well as another dude doing it with Roger: [YT]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/dhfYeiCFs7I&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/dhfYeiCFs7I&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YT] Anyone here do this drill?? If so can you break it down to bite sized pieces to learn? I'd like to be able to replicate this with me and my trainer.
all it is is weaving a punch that they throw. it's between u and ur trainer. i have noticed the trainer usually makes a noise when he throws a punch so maybe that's the cue
There is always a cue until you have done this for a long time it doesnt matter it basicly gets you used to throwing and fighting at that style and slipping and ducking undershots while throwing the series of punches notice up til the 1 and a half min mark it was pretty much the same punches thrown again and again and again. However the mitts are not moving from you and not hitting you back neither, meaning all that mitt work is IMO meaningless especially if the trainer is not making his fighter use his feet the way he would in a fight the kid was in pretty much one spot, so IMO the routine could mean jack in a fight.
might be a good way to improve hand speed though and use another drill to improve footwork and movement?
Can someone explain the point of this to me? It looks more like a party trick than any kind of training.
It does work on coordination, hand eye movement, and relaxing the muscles. Its important for the fighter to know that the opponent is not the mitts though. So many guys think a fight is going to be like hitting the mitts, which is wrong. An opponent is not like a heavy bag either, or a speed bag. You can work with one sparring partner over and over and look good because you start moving well together. However, if your partner is shorter and your opponent turns out to be tall, you can be in for a world of hurt. There has to be some understanding on the part of the fighter...he has to be responsible for knowing what works, and knowing there is no magic move that is going to make him win.
The trainer in the first video was John David Jackson who fought & trained Bernard Hopkins. He is not English
i use with some of my fighters loadsa drills that we put together eg if e slips a jab comes back with right hand left hook right hand slip right hand - left H body left H head right hand left H so we put together multiple punch combos using that kind of base eg 4straight slip a jab throw right hand left H right hand 3 left hooks right hand left hook slip the right hand throw left H body Left H head right hand left H right hand roll the left H throw right hand left H right hand block left H body right H body then roll the Left H 2 the head n cum back with right left right left im not sure if that makes sense il make a vid of it sum time and break it down as itll b easier 2 explain
For padwork to be useful to a fighter, it's gotta mimic how you throw it in the ring. Otherwise, the way Roger and Floyd pitty-pat it... iit's definitley not working on any specific technique because you never punch like that in the ring... However, it might be good for getting a rhythm going before a fight.
there plenty of hand eye cordination and some foot work but hand speed is the major part of the drilli .I think it is used for quick flurries because the trainer moves after a few punches it would be good for ameture fighters,also hes still got to slip those jabs and there still pretty quick
1) Hand-Eye coordination has to be very specific... meaning it has to exactly mimic the movement you're doing. Otherwise, playing videogames should be excellent for improving a boxer's hand-eye coordination. If you master the hand-eye coordination of hitting mitts only a few inches away from your gloves, then you get in the ring and have to punch a jaw that's three feet away, you're gonna have problems. 2) Hand speed includes, at least as far as getting power punches across, the ability to get your body into the punch at full speed as well. No use having lightning fast hands that travel six inches, but you can't propel your body forward fast enough to make those punches count. That pitty-pat padwork is either only for show, or for getting a rhythm going. But then again, Roger thinks he's so good, he just might be thinking it actually does something... like get all his other fighters knocked out... :yep
rogers a sht padman he meets the shots too early no one will stand 6inch away meetin ur glove with ther head