Mayweather responds to Cotto on ESPN... (video)

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    See what you fail to realize is that a victory is a victory is a victory ... no matter how they come.

    Yeah you might not be happy because the fight wasn't as entertaining as you wanted it to be ... but at the end of the day its all about the win.

    Hatton is not one of my favorite fighters ... but I can give him credit for what he has accomplished because he did it.

    You can't take away the fight w/ Tszyu, Urango, JLC, Maussa, and Collazo.

    No matter how he did it or the controversay behind it ... he won and those guys were champions at the time he beat them ... (except castillo) he was the first guy to put Castillo on his ass ...

    Quintana beat Williams who already had question marks surrounding him ... great to win a strap ...

    It was both guys second championship fight and they're both going to rematch. Neither guy has shown signs of greatness and are rarely talked about at all unless its to give Cotto credit or discredit Margarito.
     
  2. fitzgeraldz

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    PBF TKO mid rounds ...

    When have you seen a fighter overwhelm Floyd and knock him out? Never ... not in the amatuers or pro ... what makes Cotto so special that he's going to do something that has happened in over 100 fights?

    Yeah he may be able to give Floyd trouble ... but trust me -- Floyd will turn it into a "thinking mans game" ... Cotto can cut off the ring all he wants - Floyd is comfortable in every part of the ring ...

    If Cotto decides to box ... he's going to get knocked out ... if he gets tired, he's going to get knocked out ... if he gets cut ... the ref will stop the fight ... if he tries to stalk and attack ... he will get countered and eventually stopped.

    He can be strong all he want ... but if he can't land ... what good is his strength?

    He's flat footed stalker ... who's stiff and lacks foot speed to hang.

    He's not fast enough to beat Mayweather to the punch ...

    He's a slow starter, which means Floyd is going to take advantage of that and rack up early points. Once Cotto's corner is aware and tells him mid rounds he's down alot and has to pick up the pace ... thats when he gets desperate and goes for broke ... when that happens he leaves him self open for pot shot combonations.
     
  3. obedt

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    This isn't a thread for a hypothetical match-up analysis. It's a thread to discuss whether there should be any repercussions for Floyd avoiding the WW division.
     
  4. obedt

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    If you needed proof of Hatton not being a true ww (other than, you know, reading his trainer's thoughts on the matter which provide a CLEAR answer), check out what he does every single time he takes a fight in the WW division - he comes right back down to his comfort zone.
     
  5. pngo

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    Obviously if you are picking the likes of Gomez and Collazo to beat Cotto you wouldn't give Cotto even a 10% chance of beating Floyd.
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

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    No I don't give Cotto a 10% chance ... I don't favor Gomez or Collazo over Cotto even though they are fully capable of beating him ... this isn't about those guys anyway ... its about PBF responding to a question of him fighting Cotto.

    I do have a feeling that Gomez will pull the upset ... no matter what - loss or not Cotto is still the front runner to fight Mayweather.
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

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    Look man ... you guys claim that PBF is scared and ducking Cotto when he said live on national TV that he would fight Cotto but certain things have to happen before the fight goes down.
     
  8. Ramshall1

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    He also told Margarito to his face that he would fight him then turned down 8 mil and free agency to duck him.
     
  9. Ramshall1

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    some fighters just lose alot when they step outside their best weight class. . . Hatton is clearly one of them.
     
  10. fitzgeraldz

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    Margarito came begging talking about that he wanted his payday ... you're making millions why can't I get my million ...

    Baldomir didn't even want to fight Margarito ... he wasn't going to make enough money to cover the sanctioning fees.

    Why fight Margarito for nothing ... if Mayweather were to beat Margarito you wouldn't give him any credit and say that he was fighting a bum.

    Margarito didn't do himself any justice by winning a disputed decision to Clottey and then losing a UD to Williams who was an up and comer ... called him out ... became his madatory ... a guy who never had a title fight before ... the same guy who lost his first title defense.

    How did he duck Margarito ... when he asked the interviewers who has he fought they couldn't come up with an answer ... they were basing it on the fact that he was a tall, full fledge WW, with a high work rate ... nothing about him beating someone of significance ... nothing about him headlining an even by himself ... nothing about him beating a champion in his prime for that champions title.

    All Arum was trying to do was kill two birds with one stone ... he was going to let Mayweather out of his contract after the Margarito fight ... and at the same time giving Margarito his first 7 figure payday so that he could shut the **** up.
     
  11. fitzgeraldz

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    You can't look at a guy and base on the way he looks tell if he's a good fighter. Looks can be decieving ...

    Just because Cotto beat some guys that weren't in Mayweather league all of a sudden he's the guy to beat Mayweather? Oh he has a guady KO ratio so that means he's stronger than Floyd ... that doesn't say anything about his chin ... or that he takes alot of punches ... he's a brawler pretending to be boxer ... or that he's hasn't been on the big stage at all in his career.

    Because Shane Mosley is fast and strong - automatically he's just as good as Mayweather and is a carbon copy of Floyd ... at the same time better than Floyd. That doesn't say anything about Shane's boxing ability or lack thereof ... it doesn't say anything about his lack of defense ... it just means he's fast and strong.

    Because Margarito's a true WW ... and that he's tall and has a high work rate that he could beat Floyd ... none of that says anything about his boxing ability or that he takes alot of punches ... or that he lacks defense ... and that his punches are wide and sloppy.

    Its deeper than their appearance ... look at them when they fight ... look at their resumes against top level competition ... you would see that Margarito has none and that Cotto's are far beyond the fighters they once were or that they were up and coming at the time they fought Cotto ... or that they didn't have any heart --
     
  12. Ramshall1

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    Ur utterly stupid, Margarito was willing to take short money so Fraud could get his 8 mil just for a shot at the #1 p4p boxer . . . when I fighter does shiit like that I have tons of respect. When a scumbag shamelessly ducks Winky, Margarito, SHane and Cotto I have no respect for that kinda cowardice.
     
  13. bigtime9

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    when was the last time shane won a championship fight:deal hoya has won more titles, and defended his titles twice as many times as shane. overall hoya's legacy is greater no getting around that as well. And you never answered the question outside of hoya what was shane's best victory:deal




    did shane beat wright and forrest. and what happended to vernon he got knocked out by a c-level fighter who oscar starched in 6 rounds. don't mention vernon forrest and oscar de la hoya in the same breath:deal


    do you have even one degree:lol: :rofl how many boxing titles have you won.:deal get a life cum drop:lol: :D



    who did zyu beat to get ranked ahead of floyd mayweather jr. Tommy hearns, aaron pryor, and so many other great fighters never unified a division are you saying they are less greater then kosta zyu who never moved up out of 140 to test himself against the best fighters of his generation:deal




    winky was a 154lib fighter floyd was 140, how can floyd duck a fighter 3 divisons heavier:deal :admin :nut at a loss for words on this. Don't worry I'm not surprised:rofl
     
  14. obedt

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    Agreed 100%, and this has to be taken into account when discussing Floyd's reign at WW.

    Hatton is a damn good 140 lber IMHO. I don't want my thoughts to be misinterpreted... I do respect the Hitman.
     
  15. obedt

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    I'm not saying he's scared. All I'm saying is that he is avoiding the division. Floyd fans don't want to admit, but can't rebuke it either. At what point do we stop calling him champ of a division he has no interest in?