Mayweather says: I wanna hurt ya Hatton! & Witter backs Mayweather to beat Ricky...

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  1. GazOC

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    Olu, I'll admit I was wrong if Ajose even gets a fight with Hatton let alone wins it...its not going to happen. Forget about it.

    You're right African fighters don't tend to have it easy and Ajose has done everything expected of him so far. But 'so far' is the Commonwealth title, hasn't proved yet he's genuine world class and he doesn't deserve a title shot yet - that may come, we'll have to see.

    I'm not sure about your last point? Ajose hasn't proved he's near the best yet? And Benn didn't fight Jones, Nunn, Kalambay, McCallum.....There are gaps in every fighters resume, I guess Witter and Ajose will have to be gaps in Hattons. You could make a case for Witter being a genuine gap but Ajose just isn't there yet and is unlikely to be before Hatton retires.
     
  2. African Cobra

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    With all due respect Gazoc when a guy is in the top 10 ratings he could be between 1 to 5 fights from winning title. If Ajose get the number 1 contender into a fight he can get mandatory spot similar to Lloyd Honeyghan taking care of Horrace Shufford in the 80' to become Don Curry's mandatory. Of course Hatton can always give up belts or fight the likes of Maussa and the Urangos of this world. Who would you rather see him face someone who can really fight and a genuine threat or have fights that are a foregone conclusion.

    The Eubank versus Benn comparison is valid as Eubank was less accomplished with no titles and inferior amateur prior to him taking on Benn and winning.

    I think you think Ajose is on the same level as the domestic guys like Michael Jennings, Takaloo, Wright, Bami, Daws, Muttley and Lynes while others know that this is very special world class talent.
    Never mind even the great Azumah Nelson and Dick Tiger had to ome from somewhere.

    Hatton will lose in my opinion if he fights certain opponents which include PBF, Cotto , Ajose, Margarito, Williams and possibly Witter. Interstingly Ajose and Cotto were in the same Olympics and while I don't want to give away any secrets Ajose has the blue print for Cotto whom I think is a great warrior. Styles can have a big impact on fights.
     
  3. dwilson

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    Mayweather to Hatton "How can he (Hatton) beat me? You cant beat what you cant catch".
     
  4. GazOC

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    Olu, you're a bit quick in comparing Ajose with Tiger, Nelson, PFB, Cotto (and Hatton for that matter). Like it or not Hatton fighting Urango or Maussa carries more weight worldwide than if he'd have fought Ajose, Maussa in particular was a 'name' after the Cotto and Harris fights. Maussa would be a good fight for Ajose at this point if he wants to measure himself agianst the best in the division...

    The situation with Honey/ Shufford highlights a problem that your man is going to have: Shufford was #1 contender because Curry and McCrory had cleaned out the division beween them and Shufford was number one by process of elimination, he was the last man standing and getting on in age. Mickey Duff paid a lot of money for Shufford to come to the UK and give Honeyghan a fight for his number 1 spot. Which promoter is going to pay a leading contender decent money to fight Ajose rather than wait for his title shot?

    I still don't get the Eubank/ Benn thing, your first post was def. about people respecting Benn but now you've changed it to being about Eubank getting a shot? It doesn't really matter as Benn/ Eubank is not really comparable to Hatton/ Ajose in anyway to be honest as the money and interest was there for that fight.
     
  5. African Cobra

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    I don't want to call Maussa and Urango bums because that would be disrespectful to them and I will not denigrate fighters. However let us just say Maussa had already been beaten severely by the likes of Cotto when Cotto was on the way up. The less said about Maussa and Harris the better.

    How someone with Urango talent became IBF champion is mid boggling.

    If these are the names Hatton is proud of along with Collazo then it proves my point about his reord.

    Maloney will do what is necessary for Ajose as he needs world champions in his promotional camp hence David Haye, Ajose and Munyai.

    The point I make as regards Eubank and Benn is that Eubank was less accomplished in pedigree than Ajose but when the opportunity came he took. Benn might not have fought Kalambay and Nunn but he fought Watson, Eubank twice and Collins domestically and he fought Doug De Witt, Barkley, Robbie Sims and McClellan for which he has everyone's respect. How he won against McClellan defied logic.

    You believe Hatton is the better than my man I know my man is better so no further need to argue. If the match ever gets made we will know for sure but at least you know we fancy it and have been calling Hatton out for years even before he became a champion.

    We will take on Maussa or whoever but knowing Ajose he would rather take on someone like Demetrius Hopkins he would be regarded as a tougher foe than Maussa who would be much easier. The tougher the opponent the greater than glory and the riches.

    Do you think Hatton will agree and sign to fight PBF in November or do you think he will opt for Malignaggi instead?
     
  6. GazOC

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    I think things have gone suspiciously quiet from the Hatton camp over the PBF fight, so maybe Paulie is next?

    But anway enough is enough, lets just agree to disagree. This argument has gone round in a circle at least twice. I wish Ajose all the best with his career particulary as it won't interfere with Hattons.
     
  7. Dunky McCafferty

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    I know your not after chinks in my armour Gaz:good but I am insulted at the fact you or anyone on here classes me as naughty. I prefer to be classed as what your english friend Sean once called me, a 'loveable scottish rougue':D
     
  8. GazOC

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    :lol: 'Loveable Scottish Rogue' it is then!!:good
     
  9. JMonster

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    I think mayweather will SMASH him
     
  10. crash

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    nothing beats a good domestic match up,,,
     
  11. haggler2167

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    any videos of this interview etc
     
  12. BOOKA

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    That was early in Witters career tho, and he took the fight at a couple of weeks notice, so not too much should be made of that fight really
     
  13. GazOC

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    In agree, Witter gets a 'freebie' for the Judah loss.
     
  14. African Cobra

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    Not sure I agree. Call me a hard task master but for me in similar circumstances the measure is Azumah Nelson's performance against Salvador Sanchez. He lost but by giving a great champion true hell a genuine star was born.

    Ajose was in similar circumstances against Bradley Pryce. That is the only comparison as I don't want to mention Sanchez and Pryce in the same breath. Ajose stopped him as a last minute substitute. Apologies to Sanchez fans as I don't mean to compare him to Pryce.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Ricky's going to make Floyd do a Zab Judah chicken dance.