Mayweather Showing Leniency, Pac and Arum Seem to Be Sidestepping? Ball in Pacs Court

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  1. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Seems Top Rank and team Pac has made up their mind, and it is up to Mayweather to decide whether they want the fight or not.


    THE CLOCK IS TICKING: TEAM PACQUIAO GIVES MAYWEATHER DEADLINE TO MAKE UP HIS MIND
    By G. Leon

    Other than creating a hurricane of negative energy and (once he's done folding) a built in excuse should he suffer his first loss, it is becoming clearer and clearer that Floyd Mayweather Jr's plan to publicly oust Manny Pacquiao has backfired on him. Badly. With each passing hour it appears more and more likely that for his mega-fight to take place on March 13, it will have to take place under the full jurisdiction of the Nevada State Athletic Commission and its normal testing procedures. After Pacquiao had agreed to virtually every additional demand the Mayweather camp, some genius felt it was time to go public with the statement heard round the world. Well, the public has spoken and it's just taken a few days( and only one after ***** broke the news that Pacquiao was filing suit) for Team Mayweather to begin to crease. Golden Boy CEO Richard Schafer issued a statement to ESPN in which he formally folded on their USDA stance, but maintained that additional "random" testing must be done for a deal to be struck. However, Bob Arum has made it crystal clear to *****.com that Team Pacquiao's position is simple. This fight will happen under the testing and regulations of every other fight before it or it just won't happen. We have also been informed that Golden Boy is in receipt of Pacquiao's final offer and will have until "Monday or Tuesday" or next week to make up their mind.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Okay, I'm fine with this.

    But to me it seems like we've got some seesaw ego trip going on.

    Mayweather goes one way to give some rope. And Pac and Arum are going another way to say we only fight about the regular Nevada rules. No blood test, while saying beforehand that that was completely fine. And now, they aren't budging.

    Mayweather should just agree. But make no mistake about it, this isn't Floyd trying to get out of a fight. It's taking a stand and making Floyd decide. If it doesn't happen, I can't wait for the smear campaign.
     
  3. Hermit

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    You picked a side and are claiming to be neutral. Calling people names if they don't agree....... oookaaaayyyy

    I should have know better than to get involved in one of these threads.

    Bottom line. Nevada Boxing Commission is where the fight will take place. That was agreed to by both sides. They have well known and established testing procedures. Pac has already agreed to allow them to test him on a daily basis if they choose to. Pac has already agreed to more than any other boxer has under Nevada State rules. And you are saying Mayweather is "showing leniency" when even this is not enough for him? OK. You are just Mr. Neutral. :yep
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who knows with these people? They could have this all setup from the beginning, the steroid issue all of it. Or not... who knows I surely don't. On one hand, Manny, Arum, and Roach are all well off, they are not hurting for this fight even though its a ridiculous sum. Mayweather on the other hand is not so well off, with the massive payout to the IRS from his last fight.

    I just find it odd that Mayweather would bet so hard on red. The reason its red is because Manny ain't juicing because if he were Arum would have just pulled a Schaefer and said **** you to blood tests like Schaefer did in Mosley vs Judah.

    Manny would have taken the blood tests, so ugh really why didn't GBP go through with it? They could have told USADA to do things the way they needed to get the fight. They could have just had the NSAC conduct the sample retrieval and then sent the blood out to a lab for testing. This is not unlike in cycling the most tested sport where UCI, cyclings sanctioning body administers the test then sends them out for testing. It could have happened, but it didn't.

    Which is why I think the fight would never have happened. Asking for blood tests from a guy like Mosley makes sense. Asking for it from someone whose never come up positive, or been under subpeona to testify about his doping before a federal grandjury... that doesn't make sense.
     
  5. Morrissey

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    Might have been the effect of the slander case.

    There's no way for Mayweather other than to totally throw away his blood testing request and fight the guy they are accusing of using steroids.
     
  6. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Not calling anyone specifically names. I'm labeling the people who are being stuck in the mud on this issue names. There obviously has been mis-communication, because you I responded to your misinterpretation of my stance. I guess I myself didn't know all the facts, which is why I asked "What am I missing."

    Okay

    But didn't Mayweather agree that the Nevada State Commission could test? Why is this fight not being signed then?
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    So you think the man who needs the fight the most doesn't want it? It's possible. As you say, Manny could have gone through with it. But they really aren't that hard-pressed for the fight. Unfortunately, this is bad for the public.
     
  8. Hermit

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    This I don't know. It seems to have been Arum's last position according the ESPN report but the Mayweather side was saying they were still working out details for the blood test, which is NOT Nevada State Commission. Personally, I am all for taking all reasonable steps to ensure athletes aren't doping. From what I have read though you have different companies all wanting to make money claiming the other guys tests aren't as good as their own. I'm in no position to make a judgment on any of those types of claims. To me, that is the neutral position. Someone pointed out Merriam Jones passed all of the Olympic style testing while cheating her ass off. (Hope I named the right one there, if not, I mean the one that went to jail ;) ) So in the end, go with the rules in place in the jurisdiction you are fighting in.

    Off to bed. Have a good one. :good
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They really should only have NSAC do the administering of the actual sample retrieval as they are the only entity with the right to authority over the athletes. After retrieval its a simple matter of choosing a qualified lab, and checking the right check boxes. Seriously, it could have been that easy.

    In cycling, the UCI does sample retrievals, then hand off to AFLD, which is the antidoping agency/lab. If it's good enough for the UCI, 2 athlete testing can't be that hard?
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Alright. Who knows if this fight gets done maybe this will be known to have revolutionize the drug testing game. Some good could come out of it.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    That sounds fair, but I think they should do blood-work. From what I know, that's not required of them. That should be in the contract. Otherwise all these negotiations about strict testing were for nothing. I think Arum and Pac can agree to this. I hope, it seems fair.
     
  12. thesmokingm

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    Yar that's what I mean by sample retrieval. Also, what's stopping them from having the NSAC pull the blood and sending the samples to USADA to run the tests? Then it would be under NSAC's random testing and with USADA's expertise.
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Nothing, I suppose. But why would NSAC do this? They don't trust their own work? It would require some odd Mayweather pro conspireacy by the NSAC for this to happen. What can keep this from happening is something written within the contract, I suppose.
     
  14. PetethePrince

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