Mayweather Sr: Floyd Jr should Duck Sergio

haha good stuff. Lara Williams is another recent robbery. As a fighter, it would be bad business to leave anything in the hands of the judges is all I'm saying bro.:good

 

Is this Latin?

Sorry you might as well show me Sanskrit, all you have to do is tell me, is 42 mil what Floyd would be making from the up front 40 percent split?

Because I could swear that's what you posted earlier. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll go look again.

 

Leave 0 in the hands of the judges. See Chavez Whitaker and Lara Williams.

Also, Manny was given a good offer of $40 million. It's a shame Arum did not want to get involved as he is worth $43 million in the fight and if he wasn't so hard headed he could have negotiated this.

Question, why did Arum not take Richard and Oscar up on their offer of having a 3rd party accounting firm review all the books to see what each fighter deserves?

Why would he duck this and tell Jim, "Jim that is nonsense, the promoters are not the all powerful bodies they are made out to be."

If he really feels Manny deserves the 50/50 than what is the big deal? The books are at the TR and GBP offices. They can be mailed and Emailed to the 3rd party company and this way, the numbers could speak and not the fighters...

I believe Arum knows this would kill their stance for a 50/50 if they did this and he just avoided the entire question because of that. He wants to make it seem like Manny is the one trying to get the fight when in reality, he does not want to hurt his investment because he can see the style is all wrong for Manny. He will wait till Manny's very last fight before putting him in with a style like Floyd's.

 

At 40 percent, based on a projection of about $105 million, yes Floyd would be guarantee'd $42 million while Manny would get the same guarantee. 2 problems though; one, with the 40 split, Floyd makes less than he did for Cotto should he lose while Manny gets to make $16.5 million more than his highest payday. The other problem is that Floyd does more revenue than Manny and the numbers clearly show this.

I never said Floyd should take a 40/40/20 to the winner. Horrible deal for him as Manny brings in less revenue and does not make $42 million fighting anywhere else. Floyd did $40 million with Ortiz, who was never on PPV.

The numbers support a 59/41 split. Go back to 2009 when both agreed to 50/50 and the numbers supported this. Both fighters had equal high paydays (approx) as Floyd had his career high of $26.2 million while Manny had his career high of $25.0 million with Cotto at the time. Notice how Floyd gave in on that when the numbers supported it.

.585 round up 59%
.414 round up 41%

 

Yeah see right here you said Floyd's 40% would be about 42 Mil, after he wins he would get more with the extra 20% right?

That seems like a very good payday, for the biggest fight of the decade.

 

Wow, fantastic response!

 

Does Floyd really think he deserves or is gonna get double his career high as well??? We're talking well over 80 million dollars there!

Come on man. Floyd is the big star, but dude needs to be reasonable here, he's basically pricing himself right out of the fight. And what's worse is all of his fans are defending this action.

 

So again, see Lara Williams and Chavez Whitaker. He could win and still not win. Plus 0 guarantee in REALITY that he would win. This is a business. 59/41 and Manny can get it but Manny said 50/50 and priced himself out.

 

Read the post. I never once said Floyd get's $80 million.atsch About $65 million is what I said.

Read the post bro, don't just read the first part of the post.

Manny priced himself out when he rejected the $40 million.

You also fail to touch up on other points like prior big fights (the biggest) that I commented on. Man o man it's tough to debate with someone who doesn't have the correct info.

 

It Take Two to Tango, Atleast some % of the PPV to Pacquiao, Pacquiao is also contributing.

100% PPV's to Mayweather, thats another way of Ducking a Fight.

 

You said you were 31 earlier. I am 35, born in 1977. In 1987 when Hagler fought Leonard it was 4 months before my 10th b-day, which made me 9. You're 4 years younger then me, so I guess that would have made you 6 in 1988, my bad.

 

So Floyd should say **** the economics and just give Manny his 50/50. LMFAO...He'd have his ass handed to him at the negotiation table if he did that.

Based on the numbers, it's Manny who priced himself out...the info is there for ya so indulge in it and get yourself some knowledge on the subject.

Hey, I'm all for it if they can do a 50/50 but by no means am I putting blame on the guy who asks for simple demands and offers 37.5% more than a fighter's career high. Floyd the A side in negotiations with Manny. He does more revenue.

 

So I was born in 1981. So I would be 7 in 88 bro.

You really aren't very good at math are you..even simple math.

 

you cant buy greatness - floyd and manny can negotiate to their hearts content with other fighters after this one if they want to keep fighting

if this fight doesnt get made then it'll be a thorn on forums like this as much as calzaghe's reluctance to fight prime jones and hopkins

just for this fight you have to not look at it through $$$, because a fight like this rarely comes along

what the winner gains is worth more than an extra 20 mill anyway

 

rorschach51 do you have something valid to add? Something with sources and info that is relevant or are you just going to keep asking me leading questions?

I'm here to debate...if you don't know the story then fine. If you want me to school you on it like I have been doing, then let me know and with all due respect we can keep going. No hard feelings; just a boxing forum.