Mayweather Sr: "What award they gonna give my son when he whoops Pacquiao"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rabmag, Jun 15, 2010.


  1. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Charlie, I know what you are saying can agree to a certain extent. Thing is, he has one (1) fight at JWW so it's a little ridiculous to say that is his natural and best weight. 142, 144 and 145 are WW weights and that is where he looks comfortable and most effective. Losing to Morales and barely scraping by Marquez at 130 and 135 and then murdering De La Hoya, Cotto and Clottey at 147 should make that clear.

    Mayweather did the same thing, chasing bigger challenges (and paydays :D) going all of the way up to 154 and doesn`t get nearly the same respect because he is an *******, and that`s fine.

    I am just trying to campaign the two of them as equals at the top of their game, which they are, and may the best man win and be considered the best of the generation. *****s can accept this but *******s can`t, saying no matter what the outcome is, Pacquiao will go down in history as the better fighter.

    It`s complete bull****.
     
  2. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He'll get a badge for a job well done:

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  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You make it sound like Floyd is guranteed a "W" when he faces manny. If that were true Floyd would have already beaten the Current fighter of the decade. It's very possible that with Floyd's own reservations when talking about facing Manny he's indicating that he knows Manny is a threat to his undefeated record and he's being extremely cautious before signing on the dotted line.

    Toss up for me but I'm inclined to lean towards Manny winning a decision. Logic would have most leaning towards Floyd based on this being a classic fight between two legitimatley great boxers in their primes...A great Big man vs A great small man. So of course Floyd should be the favorite given the saying...."A great big man always beats a great small one"....however...that has not always been the case and i think Manny will pull off yet anther upset. Yet...I wouldn't be surprise if Floyd ended up with his hand raised after 12 hard fought rounds either.
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    And what? We saw Floyd move to 154 and fight Oscar where he was the much smaller man and was far in advance the 140lbs he had recently fought at, why didn't it effect him?

    Anyone arguing that Marquez at 135 would beat a 135 version of Floyd is just having a laugh.
     
  5. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    He is guaranteed a win when he steps in against Pacquaio. Anyone who knows boxing knows what this fight is going to be about, why it hasn't been signed already? Who knows, we only know what we're told but this is a foregone conclusion and that's not because Pacquaio is a **** fighter, it's simply a testament to how good Mayweather is.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's clear that Manny can operate between 135 all the way up to 147 effectively. And him being a "small welter weight" should not have any impact should Floyd come out victorious when and if they end up fighting.

    Manny has proven that he can beat top teir comp in a weight class that he's clearly smaller than the average WW. So that's my rationale behind why Floyd would deserve ALL THE CREDIT for beatin someone on his own level in PAC.

    Floyd being a multi division champ DOES garner him a lot of respect! Not as much as manny b/c there have been others who have done that. Other GREATS like Leonard and DLH. But the reason Manny gets more accolades is b/c he made history. Of course being an ass doesn't help Floyd either, but MOST give Floyd major props for what he's done and how he's done it.

    If Floyd beats Manny and DOMINATES he'll clearly be considered a better boxer no matter what his delusional fans may say. Just like if Manny beats Floyd....he'll be seen as the better fighter and it will have been well deserved. I just hope we see a great compeitive match where both have their career defining fight against one anther.....who knows...this may turn out to be an incredible trilogy depending on if MOST are correct and these two men are equal in terms of being fighters.
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Still Floyd moving up to face Oscar was only moving up 1 division, not two. Not saying Marquez would've beaten Floyd just saying moving up once is easier than trying to move up twice.
     
  8. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Floyd had recently fought at 140 when he fought Oscar at 154. Oscar had fought at 160 and was a champion at the weight, there was a huge size difference there and what's more, Oscar wasn't asked to cook himself down to a weight he hadn't fought at, in almost a decade.

    At this level, considering that Pacquaio has shown if anything his power has increased as he's gone up and that Floyd has not been a power puncher at any stage of his career, size means nothing - technique and skillset means everything.
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL...there are no gurantees in boxing bro... You should know that.:lol: Especially when it's between TWO equally matched guys who present stylistic nightmares for each other.

    Anyone who knows boxing KNOWS there are never gurantees when it comes to this sport...especailly at this level between evenly matched compeitors.

    There is only one reason this fight has NOT been made and that's b/c Floyd switched things up than what he's been known for. He's known for his extreme confidence and arrogance as a fighter which has helped him be as great as he is.

    But those things that you come to expect from Floyd are not present when it comes to PAC. He's obviously concerned about what PAC brings to the ring and that is easily seen with his actions and comments with the build up to this fight.

    He's never accused anyone he was suppose to face of being on something....nor has he ever felt the need for demanding Olympic style testing in order for him to do his job and fight. Therefore its a testament of how good Manny is as a fighter which Floyd indirectly acknowledges through actions and statements he's made within the last 6 to 8 months.
     
  10. PugilisticPower

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    Well, sure, if Mayweather gets cold cocked early by Pacquaio without seeing and TKO'ed on the ropes, it's not a guarantee, I just personally do not see that happening.

    Mayweather has a good chin, solid defense and the ability to change the game. He's fought super slick southpaws, including one who would rate as one of the best fighters in the world.... for the first four rounds of a fight before crumbling in Zab Judah.

    The idea that Pacquaio is a stylistic nightmare for him makes me laugh, because this is what was said about Hatton and De La Hoya before their fights

    It'll be an easy fight for Mayweather. The style is completely in his favour, Pacquaio likes to overwelm fighters with his workrate, he won't do that to Mayweather - Mayweather is too good a judge of distance and superb with timing.

    As for the olympic style testing? Cmon - he demanded that of Mosley in his most recent fight.
     
  11. Relentless

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    mayweather is such a *****, taking a fight he knows he will win easily, *****.
     
  12. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Prior to the DLH fight Floyd faced Baldomir @ 147 though. Prior to facing Floyd, DLH just beaten Mayorga @ 154

    Agree and I'm big on technique I technically-skilled fighters more than any order style but it's the accurate shots that can break opponents down in order to pick up Ko's but on the most part TKOs which is what Floyd had many of at an earlier part of his career.
     
  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A stunning piece of flat commentary there.
    You "completely" disagree but don't say why and then immediately pose a question of your own.
    Nice.
     
  14. dahoe

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  15. DobyZhee

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    he wasn't at his best? who was training him at the time?

    there were NO excuses May 2nd 2009.

    maybe ricky just had a bad camp.