Mayweather Sr: "What award they gonna give my son when he whoops Pacquiao"

Was mentioned in a few places. The proposal was for a catchweight within the LWW division.

Scene of boxing had quotes which I can no longer find, but they are requoted here:

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/163978/Pacquiao-ready-to-accept-Mosleys-challenge

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/06/03/09/mosley-money-wont-be-issue-fight-pacman

 

This would have creedence if Marquez was beating by the power and size of Mayweather, not the skillset. Mayweather was a much crisper, sharper fighter, landed better combination and counter punches and completely nullified Marquez.

Already you have people setting excuses for Pacquaio about size, despite him beating now, 4 legitimate 147lb fighters in Cotto, Clottey, De La Hoya and Hatton.

Remember, Hatton won a title at 147 and only lost at that weight to the #1 P4P.

On one hand, people give Pacquaio credit for being able to come up in weight so well, on the other, they want to ensure an excuse is there to remove full credit from Floyd when he wins.

 

:deal

 

*******s are shitting bricks and hoping for a cotto rematch. Lol

 

I heard about the Pac/Mosley catchweight proposal but seen nothing credible that mentions anything as low as 140lbs.

Even in relation to the Pacquiao/Mosley discussions, nothing seemed to be proposed in any formal approach. In other words, all this took place in the media without the two reported parties ever getting past first base (so to speak), officially.

Had Team Pacquiao selected the Cotto fight, without it being proposed at a catchweight, I might have been a little suspicious but, from my view, it appeared that Pac/Mosley couldn't be agreed on whereas Pac/Cotto could.

Given that Cotto had beaten Mosley and was the more lucrative match-up anyway, Pac/Cotto made sense.

 

lmao *******s have been salivating for the Pac vs Mayweather fight to happen and you joyboys are the ones who seem to not want it.

 

This would have more credence if it hadn't overlooked the effect that the extra weight had on Marquez, in terms of his crispness and sharpness, particularly his movement (which was slow and flat-footed).

It is also a bit of an overstatement to suggest that OdlH and [especially] Hatton be considered legitimate 147lb fighters. OdlH hadn't fought at that weight for several years and Hatton had a 1-1 record at 147, not to mention that his fight with Pacquiao took place at 140.

You also omit the 'catchweight' nature of the Pacquiao/Cotto bout, which takes some, if not all, of the 'legitimate' sheen of that Welterweight contest.

People also seem to be forgetting that, in each of these fights, Pacquiao was somewhat the media underdog. I am not sure what prices the bookies were offering at the time but, in general, there were enough people who didn't think Pacquiao would prevail as each of these contests came to fruition.

Pacquiao/Clottey was the first truly legit Welterweight contest for Manny and, even then, he was small at the weight.

There's nothing that will stop the extremes being drawn from either side of the Pacquiao/Mayweather fence but the only sensible views will be the ones that are balanced, having taken everything into consideration.

 

Manny is campaigning as a WW but in terms of what he is or where he is most comfortable it's easy to see he's a Jr WW. He doesn't come in at 147...most of the time its between 142 and 144.

Manny fights at WW only b/c there are no challenges that are going to help his legacy any further at Jr WW or below. In order for PAC to continue to challenge himself he has to fight bigger fighters where they had at least one advantage over him.

Floyd has a few advantages over PAC but for the most part are equals. Which is why most want to see this fight. Two "equals"....Two TOP fighters....Two great and accomplish boxers with Polar opposite styles. it's a great match up....even the personalities conflict and generate some good drama.

 

That's not really an "excuse".....it's actually true. But if Floyd does win it's not b/c of the size difference. It will be b/c Floyd style was too troublesome for Manny or Floyd just found a way to nullify PAC's attributes and game plan.

Sure there will be excuses for either side win or lose. Floyd already has his excuse lined up. He laid that foundation when he and his team spread the accusations that led up to the Olympic style demands that stalled the orginial negotiations for this fight.

Manny nor Floyd have any legit excuses at the moment for why they should win or end up with an "L". Sure we'll hear them all but the best man will win the fight. All the excuses are gonna be from a small group who make up the minority.

 

Whether he used it or not Floyd still had a size advantage. Marquez was at a weight he didn't seem comfortable at and yes Floyd did nullify him but I don't put much credit in that victory. Now for beating Shane, I give Floyd all the credit in the world and notice Floyd nullified Shane too. No matter whoever wins and whoever losses I give full credit to both if Pacquiao and Mayweather do end up fighting.

 

A much better DLH? How do you figure? Maybe a little better b/c it was at DLH then natrual weight, but at the end of the day the way Manny dominated and the way Floyd had struggles more than compensates for the version of DLH you feel was the lesser man when he faced Manny who jumped up not 1 but 2 weight classes to step up to the challenge.

With Ricky...again...Ricky was fighting Floyd at 147, clearly where Ricky was NOT at his best. He lost in a pretty tough fight that Floyd has said was his most difficult.

Manny completely dominated...had no struggles and of course got the KO in 2 where Floyd took 10 rounds to get a KO. And PAC beat Ricky at his BEST weight. Manny beat Two guys Floyd beat in a more dominating performance....Floyd has ONE fight against a smaller and past his phyiscal best in terms of weight in JMM where PAC struggled. So it's easy to see why most feel this is a competive match up between two of the best.

 

Completely disagree with that statement. But to each their own I suppose. Who faced a better version of JMM?

 

Mayweather shits allover pacman any day of the year. He definitely the fastest, best footwork , hardest hitting (ok that is arguable) and by far the smartest fighter pacman has seen....Saying that though it will probably be a close war though, if not, a shutout to Money..... Thought i'd add my deeply insightful opinion lol.

 

Saying floyd will not get credit IF he beat pac is ****** just pac is slightly shorter than floyd but not much. pac is now a legitimate welter.

this fight must happen. i wana see who's the better fighter. boxing's best defense against best offense. two warriors with totally contrasting style.

 

ain't nuttin' wrong with that...pbf wants it that way, that's why people pay to see his frustratingly can't get no satisfaction style fights