Mayweather stood and traded with Cotto but not Pac?

If you wanna ignore that Freddie somehow made a perfect and miraculous prediction that we would be seeing a performance drop in Pac, and that he would have absolutely no explanation for why that would be so he just went ahead and said what everyone would be thinking because he had no other explanation (PED's) and that he even went as far firing someone all just because he's an idiot. Yeah, he's simply an idiot who was able to make spot on predictions, excuses, and Pac even allowed him to fire the guy that allowed amazing stamina. What great lengths of ignorance you people put yourselves through.

 

Roach trains pacquiao every day. He knows Pacquiaos body.

If he notices one day that hey my fighter is showing signs of slippage how is that alluding to PEDs.

 

Pacquiao wasn't going to let Ariza go. He was actually against it, and he didn't want to because Pac's a loyal dude. So, Freddie said he would give Pacquiao half his salary in the next fight if he agreed to fire Ariza.


Pacquiao obliged

 

Pathetic, so Pac's loyalty can be bought off? And of course Pac didn't want to fire Ariza, how does this make your argument better?

 

Well on it's own it doesn't but you have to remember he kept saying "we don't know what Ariza was putting in Pac's shakes" It's fact that he insinuated it extremely heavily, you seem to forget or act like that didn't happen.

 

Roach isn't an nutritionist of course he doesn't know the chemicals.

From 2003-2009 pacquiao was the most dominant fighter since jones jr and Leonard.

It had to eventually end. Slippage had to come eventually.

 

If you can't admit that was beyond blatant ridiculously obvious insinuation of PED's then what's the point of this. Just say I'm a total Pactahrd and you're wasting your time. Given the history and what they've been accused of he knew that was enough to essentially admit they were on PED's, if you can't admit this basic fact there's no need for us to communicate.

 

You're going off circumstantial evidence.

I'm doing the same. Pacquiao got a little older and had been in wars and slowed down a little.

 

lol, this is the first time I've heard someone actually try to make the argument that Roach was not at the very least hard core insinuating they were on PED's, it's that obvious that's what he was doing.

 

Mayweather has stood and traded in almost every single fight dating back to and including the Oscar fight. Perhaps just two exceptions in that bunch.

 

Everyone has a price. Freddie found out Ariza's. You made it sound like in your other post that Pac gave up Ariza easily. Not the case

 

People seem to forget that Mayweather was hugging Pac everytime Pac manages to close the distance.
That is a brilliant strategy, IMO, knowing Pac has very limited inside game and that he is a combination puncher (practically Pac wasn't able to "go off").

If you will rewatch round 11 however, you will see that Pac has no answer to Mayweather's offense either (especially that looping right hand).
If Pac decided to trade at that time, it would've been an interesting brawl, seeing both fighters can't handle each other's offensive ****nal.

 

If you saw Pac hurt Mayweather 3or4 times then you were hallucinating. Maidana hurt him far worse than Pac because if that bell hadn't have rang. Floyd would have been in serious trouble.

 

What was Roach's comment?

Except he didn't decline after those fights.

 

That's not good enough for some, for any fighter.