I think i'm going to take the time to learn it. Anyone got any good tutorial video's, also what are your thoughts in general. I like it, its very reactive if you get me. What do you think?
Its got good and not so good aspects to it. Its been about for years that type of pad work in one form or another, did something simular in the 60s. Its main basic form is Plyometric feel at different distance, thats why the padman changes distance with the pad by hitting the glove. For technique and position it has its flaws. But for nuromuscluar adaptions it has its good points, anyway its different and if youre aware of it no harm done, everything has a place unless its utter Bollocks :yep
If you want to learn how to do choreographed routines on pads, it's great. If you want to improve your boxing, there are many better things you could be doing. Those choreographed pad routines are a waste of time in my opinion. I think the best training is to do stuff that resembles actual boxing. Now, I've never seen a fight where one guy throws about fifty pitty-pat punches, and then the opponent ducks his head into those punches to accommodate, because that's pretty much what the Mayweather style pad work is akin to.
Jeff its very easy to learn but hard to explain. i think its good if you use it in moderation just maybe 1x30 min session a week at the most. Also its good fun.
Floyd, Has good Posture, and understands the concept. Ive seen people do it who havent a clue, or understand the WHY. Now thats where the problem starts, never copy unless you understand the concept of when and why.
Yes mate... I understand that. I know from experience that you don't see a punch coming and think roll, it just happens. Its a reaction. A reactive physical response to a visual stimulant right? For that reason I think its really good because thespeed they work at is beyond thought-reaction.... its almost subconsious.
Good input Jeff and scrap. Many people see it and think that it is choreographed; I don't go along with that theory. Yes, you can choreograph 10 or 20 punch combinations, but to choreograph a 30 minute pad session is beyond the realms of possibility imo. For me, it is about training the CPA (central peripheral awareness) which is processed by the magno system (I think!!), and tying that in with motor skill training - which ultimately leads to greater reaction times. Watch Floyd box, watch as he focuses and keeps his head as still as possible when his opponents close him down - this is part of the reason why he is able to time his opponents as they come in - ask Ricky Hatton how many lead rights he swallowed whilst in pursuit of Mayweather. I'd also go on to suggest that one of the reasons that they perform longer than average sessions whilst doing this type of drill is to train the visual system as it slows when fatigued, and your concentration can also be a victim of fatigue.
I don't know what the techinicalities of it are but the main body of punches seems to be made up of the same thing. EG 1-2-LH-2-RUppertcut-2-Roll-2-LH-2-Slip-2-LH-2-Slip out-Slip in-Roll repeat. But then they add stuff on which is probably practised over and over and they switch inbetween. It will take skill. I tried yesterday with my mate who just boxes to keep fit and we got up to 40 moves in one session. My first attempt. I can't get the hand of the shoulder block thing.
it is choreographed. There might be 10 or 20 different routines. If your doing pads for 30 minutes doesnt mean you do 1 continuos routine. You would repeat the same routine or mix up a few routines. These pad drills are designed for specific combinations. It is used for the defence and the counter staight after, then the defence after that punch. When you repeat thses moves over and over defence will come second nature. In my opinion these pad drills are better then banging away at pads. Doing mayweather pads makes you keep your focus. So you are training your punching, defence and focus all together. Just plain old pad work all you train is your punching and obviously fitness.
of course its coreographed you fool. theyve got about 10 different 10-20 punch combos that they go through repeatedly. Just watch him on youtube and youll clearly see that its the same punches and movements one after another
i dont think it gives you the same skill and mayweather pad drills. Slapping the lads with a pad may teach them to keep there hands up or there elbows in but mayweather style teaches you to flow and focus. In my opinion much better. puch defend punch defend and so on, you get constant flow
Fool? I tip my hat to you, congratulations, you are clearly, a class act... i do hope that little insult made you feel big and proud. Choreography - yes, of course 'certain elements' are choreographed, just as with any pad routine, or combination drilling. We are all taught what to counter with, how to set up combinations, and what combinations to throw - that in itself is the choreography to a certain extent. What I was getting at was that I don't feel that the exact routine is laid out before they do their padwork. As any pad man does, Roger calls the shots and Floyd reacts with defensive manouvers, counters or combinations which formulate the basis of Floyd's style. If Floyd threw 500 punches, made 300 slips, 150 shoulder rolls and blocks in a pad session, no one can tell me he knew exactly what he was going to do before he started the pad session - this is what I meant by it not being choreographed. Roger presents situations, and Floyd reacts to them, and yes, in most cases with a pre planned counter or defensive manouver. No padwork that I have seen is completely freestyle - there is always an element of planning involved, but to say that a pad session is choreographed in the sense that all parties knew exactly what would be thrown, when it would be thrown, how often it would be thrown is a ridiculous suggestion.
I think Mayweather's pad work is more of something that works on his defensive reflexes. Notice how he blocks some of the pads with his shoulders and barely hits the pads. I really wouldn't reccomend it though