Mayweather Testing Procedure is not Olympic Standard testing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012.


Page 2 of 6
  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    42,568
    3,760
    May 4, 2012
    Vada is also a good option and cheaper. I still have doubts with it being so close in relation to Conte though.
     
    turbotime, Sep 21, 2012
    turbotime, Sep 21, 2012
    #16
  2. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,388
    0
    Feb 16, 2012
    Usada been doing CIR testing for years
     
    ajackman1, Sep 21, 2012
    ajackman1, Sep 21, 2012
    #17
  3. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,121
    22
    Aug 25, 2009
    Shane Mosley and Victor Ortiz where found clean by both WADA and VADA testing that only leaves Floyd Mayweather and Miguel Cotto who have done Floyd style drug testing and not VADA. Maybe no one has been caught because they where clean for the Floyd Mayweather fights or is that unlikely in your opinion?
     
    weegriffin, Sep 21, 2012
    weegriffin, Sep 21, 2012
    #18
  4. D4thincarnation

    D4thincarnation Guest

    Beginning of training camp, I think 60 days before the fight.

    It is better than tests carried out in America, though all Sauerland fighters are subjected to similar tests
     
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    #19
  5. D4thincarnation

    D4thincarnation Guest

    Basically the same test, the only difference were the CIR testing for all samples by VADA.

    WADA don't carry out the testing , the set the standard

    We do know Mosley has used PEDs before.

    They probably are clean, I have no evidence to the contrary, but the point is that there are hole in the testing procedure that Mayweather uses and it not Olympic Standard.
     
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    #20
  6. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

    42,568
    3,760
    May 4, 2012
    :deal

    The best measuring stick are Mosley and Ortiz. If VADA had ended up catching them but not the USADA then there should be a cause for concern.

    But they all tested clean so it's reasonable to assume that all fighters were clean under USADA tests.
     
    turbotime, Sep 21, 2012
    turbotime, Sep 21, 2012
    #21
  7. D4thincarnation

    D4thincarnation Guest

    Yes they do, but they don't or at least didn't CIR test all samples.

    USADA once stated the carry out CIR testing strategically.
     
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    #22
  8. ajackman1

    ajackman1 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,388
    0
    Feb 16, 2012
    USADA have always done CIR, in fact a couple of athletes before the Olympics got caught through it .
     
    ajackman1, Sep 21, 2012
    ajackman1, Sep 21, 2012
    #23
  9. D4thincarnation

    D4thincarnation Guest

    I'm more concerned with Conte working in sport.

    He advises VADA nothing more though, the testing is done at WADA accredited labs.

    Conte is like the ex-mafia man with the insider knowledge to bring down his former pals and people like them.
     
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    #24
  10. bobotnaman

    bobotnaman ★★★★☆ Full Member

    3,884
    1
    Sep 8, 2011
    i don't understand all this CIR, WADA, etc. so i'll just ask simple questions.

    is this better than the current drug testing boxing uses? or boxers can still get away from cheating?
    does Floyd method have actually caught someone cheating?
    how many cheaters have the current drug test have been caught?
     
    bobotnaman, Sep 21, 2012
    bobotnaman, Sep 21, 2012
    #25
  11. D4thincarnation

    D4thincarnation Guest


    It is a better standard of testing that the commissions offer. But it leaves big holes where fighters can still cheat and get away with it.

    No has been caught by Floyd's standard USADA testing, what is troubling is that after GBP lost fights, Khan vs Peterson and Ortiz vs Berto, the testing for the Quillin vs Wright fight, which was carried out by USADA, was stopped and samples collected destroyed.


    NSAC tests have caught hundreds, they caught Chavez last week, and other commissions have caught quite a few as well.
     
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    #26
  12. randomwalk

    randomwalk Active Member Full Member

    1,035
    0
    Feb 25, 2010
    Olympic style testing doesn't require blood tests ... at least for boxers.
     
    randomwalk, Sep 21, 2012
    randomwalk, Sep 21, 2012
    #27
  13. Elliot

    Elliot Boxing Addict banned

    5,304
    0
    Jan 22, 2012
    It is Olympic standard, it's just not done to their protocol, the tests are the exact same just not done the whole year, I haven't done enough research on it to know how often athletes are tested during their off season (or to be honest if an off season even exists)

    Tbh it should be just known as additional testing, but the Olympic standard thing is kinda catchy.
     
    Elliot, Sep 21, 2012
    Elliot, Sep 21, 2012
    #28
  14. D4thincarnation

    D4thincarnation Guest

    Olympic standard testing is 365 days a year.

    Floyd testing is 60 days prior to a fight.

    That leaves 300 plus day where Floyd could use, seeing how he only fights once every 16 months, that is almost 500 days for possible use of PEDs.

    Olympic Standard maybe catchy, but it simply is not.
     
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    D4thincarnation, Sep 21, 2012
    #29
  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

    63,174
    23
    Oct 27, 2010
    I agree, I think Floyd should test year round and make all his future opponents start testing right now as well. Pacquiao needs to sign a contract today saying he agrees to get tested randomly today all the way up to the fight next year
     
    bballchump11, Sep 21, 2012
    bballchump11, Sep 21, 2012
    #30
Page 2 of 6