Mayweather thanks ESPN for ranking him number 1

JMM ?
Oh wait... Fat Dan had it even. He hsould at least be at nr 3...

 

He arguably beat Vargas and Taylor. In addition to that, he had a competitive fight with Hopkins and holds four total wins over Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, and Ike Quartey. For my money, he's still one of the best in the sport and has been doing nothing but solidifying his status as such recently (aside from a performance against Williams in which he was hampered by leg cramps).

 

Since a large amount of Pac fans use ESPN and other news outlets/articles to make their decisions on what's truth, let's see how many enter this thread and agree.

 

I think JMM should be there instead of Sergio.

 

Wait... what happened to Fat Dan the Biggest Liar ??????

This is like the Pro CompuBox crowd quoting it everyday, then suddenly CompuBox is a sham.

You guys flip-flop so much.


That being said, I don't have any problems with Dan's decision. I still think Pac is #1, but it is really not that difficult to say PBF is #1 based on the most recent performance.

 

I thought this was about current P4P fighters not past 154 champions.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl "Let the steam out ya collar hoe!"

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Wright may be a bit inactive lately, but what can you do when nobody wants to fight you? I don't think he should be penalized for something totally out of his control. He has had some good wins recently - Quartey, Trinidad, Soliman, etc. Am I out of line here?

 

ward should be number 2

 

Imo pac should be demoted because of a lose and in most peoples views (not the judges clearly) he did so yeah the list is fine. Floyd lost his spot due to inactivity and the rise off pac kept him form gaining his spot back. Pac had a bad performance while Floyd ko'd the then wbc welterweight champ of the world Ortiz. (although not in the purest way but I'd would've done the same thing **** u don't headbutt me but I digress)

Pac on the other hand struggled mightily against an opponent who many said had no **** in hell of winning.

 

Hatred is an ugly thing.

 

Pac should still be #1

 

didn't know manny "lose" or LOST

last time i checked manny: 2-0-1, **** drinker, 0-2-1




The Judges did a great job scoring Pacquiao-Marquez III; Mike Jones talks about Joe Frazier's death; Theophane-Wright on 12/10

By Danny Serratelli: Despite what many boxing fans think it is extremely difficult to accurately determine who won a 12 round fight under the 10-point must scoring system if you do not score the fight round by round as the official judges do. As most boxing fans know each round is usually scored 10-9, unless there is a knockdown, point deduction, truly even round, or in other limited instances such as when a fighter is thoroughly dominated and is able to remain on his feet the entire round.

People are constantly accusing boxing judges of being corrupt. While there are always exceptions the fact is that most of the individuals making these accusations should educate themselves on the subject. Many do not understand how the fights are scored; they often think their experience as a trainer, fighter or working in boxing makes them an expert on who won the fight. This is regardless of the fact that most of these people do not take the time to keep score.

The guilty parties are not scoring round by round; they are just watching the fight as whole. This will often give you a very different perception of who won the fight. On top of that, the majority of the “experts” are watching pay per view in loud bars and homes, drinking, eating and listing more to the guy next to them or the commentary. To truly score a fight properly, you need to get in a zone like many of the professional judges do. Lock in on the fight with no distractions and score the fight round by round without taking into account the crowd or the commentary.

A closer analysis of the Pacquiao vs. Moralez fight illustrates why many fans are calling it a robbery, while knowledgeable boxing people either agree the judges were on point or that they are at least honestly in the ballpark. Punchstat numbers while sometimes useless, appeared to be useful in this instance. Pacquaio landed around 40 more punches and threw around 140 more punches. In this fight almost every round was close and many could have been scored either way. The rounds won by the widest margin were won by Juan Manuel Marquez. The cleanest and sharpest punches of the evening also were landed by Marquez. However, it appeared Pacquiao won more of the close rounds. He was busier and appeared to have the edge in ring generalship and effective aggressiveness in the rounds that were up for grabs.

Something else to be considered is that Pacquiao was around a 9-1 favorite and the public perception among most fans was that Pacquiao would walk through him. It is also important to remember that styles make fights and this match up will always create a competitive fights. People were starting to forget that Pacquiao is human and there is no handicap in boxing. The rounds must be judged without any bias stemming from expectations. The fact that Marquez performed better than expected and is perceived by the casual fan as winning doesn’t go for the knowledgeable boxing judge who is scoring each round individually and separately.

I scored the fight 115-113 for Pacquiao live, I then re-scored it in a more quiet setting and came back with the same result, but became more aware of how many rounds could have reasonably went the other way. 115-113 either way to me would not be controversial at all. Again, with all the close rounds 116-112 is not a travesty either and I think judges Dave Moretti 115-113, Robert Hoyle 114-114 and Glenn Trowbridge 116-112 all did a respectable job. I do not understand how anyone can say that any scores in this range is corrupt considering how close and difficult it was to score many rounds in the fight.

What is a travesty is to listen to a bunch of so called boxing experts, fans and people who barely watch the fight (and definitively do not score it). They jump on a popular bandwagon and give boxing more bad PR because they love to talk about corruption and fixes, drugs and negativity instead of about how Pacquiao and Marquez just put on another great fight.
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