Mayweather the Goat?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Mar 4, 2019.


Where does Mayweather place in an ATG list?

  1. Top 10

    12 vote(s)
    19.0%

  2. 10-20

    14 vote(s)
    22.2%

  3. 20-30

    15 vote(s)
    23.8%

  4. 30-40

    13 vote(s)
    20.6%

  5. 40-50

    9 vote(s)
    14.3%
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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Is Mayweather the Best or does he just say so. I've always appreciated his style and defence but is he best, does his résumé match up to Charles, Robinson, Greb, Ali or Langford. Could he beat any of the older Welterweight greats or is his H2H prowess overrated.

    I've added a poll to determine where he's placed in others eyes
     
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  2. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No.
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    No.

    Just no.
     
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  4. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No it doesn't match up with those named, and no he wasn't as good as though named. He was however, the GOAT at carefully picking fights at the right time. He's also may be the GOAT at promotion and certainly self promotion. However, he's not close to the GOAT as a fighter or going by resume
     
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  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Welcome to the forum....

    But to answer your question no!

    I do think 10-20 could be argued. I try not to rate fighters till they have retired for 5 years where we can better evaluate them and their era. You could probably make a case for 7-10 but I think that is doubtful or it will be the outlier rather than the norm. I think he will cement himself in top the top 25 but likely outside of the top 10
     
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  6. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    40-50 is a good spot for him
     
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  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Resume wise, not a chance IMO.

    Still a legit ATG though

    I think he's in the mix with the best ever Lightweights. I think the top teir Welterweights would prove too much though.
     
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  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Huh?
     
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  9. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, he's top 25-30.
     
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  10. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No
     
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  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sounds ok to me
     
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  12. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure we will ever see guys like Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong again. Those two to me are 1a and 1b for the GOAT. They both moved up and down in weight and fought everyone. Floyd is a great figher no doubt but he is not on the level of those two as far as true accomplishments.
     
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  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Top 50 ATG
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Thanks, I have Mayweather at 26 ever with Pacman just 1 behind.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Out of interest which atg lightweight do you pick him over, I have him dropping a decision to Benny Leonard, a KO loss to Duran but winning a comfortable decision over Joe Gans
     
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