Ortiz beat clear-cut #3 WW Berto and dropped Lamont Peterson twice en route to a largely controversial draw. Credit to Lamont for coming back strong but most everybody had Ortiz winning by 2 points over Lamont. Beyond that, their resumes are very similar having beaten Friday Night Fights quality opponents and badly faded fighters for the most part beyond their top victory. Ortiz was 24 and was highly thought of years prior as a prospect. Algieri was 30 and most people on this forum didn't know who he was entering the Provodnikov fight. Also, factor in that all polls I've seen show that most viewers thought Provodnikov beat Algieri on their scorecards, and geeeeez, you sure you want to stand by that claim?!?
Which of the two fighters entered the discussed fights without a single victory at Welterweight plus coming off a loss and which of the two fighters was the Welterweight lineal champ and hadn't lost in 8 years? Oh. Cool. Sometimes you have to put your agenda aside and realize that your ideals are less relevant than what actually happens in the ring.
Berto is a joke. Bradley is the better win over Canelo. There are polls that ask who is the better win Bradley or Canelo and Bradley win the polls. Bradley>>>> Canelo. Again Floyd also did not fought Canelo on his proper weight. You are mentioning the wins of Canelo. But these wins come from 154(and above) Floyd fought him at 152.
oh STFU, Bradley is NOT on canelos level as a fighter, if you think he is you are a terrible judge of talent, and I mean TERRIBLE. their resumes are pretty close but that has NOTHING to do with which is a better fighter. Bradley has looked horrible really since he left 140, he doesn't have the skills needed to compensate for his lack of size fighting at WW. those "polls" you claim that we had are a F ucking joke kid. we have the pacult , (you being one of them) and a few of them have like a min 20 alts and that is the ONLY reason Bradley would lead any poll, pac went 1/1 (officially) so of course all you clowns are going to vote for him with every alt you make. canelo has A level talent Bradley has A level heart but not talent at all. B level talent on his best day.. LMFAO, Bradley as good a fighter as canelo, never mind you literally trolling Bradley as dangerous as canelo. HOLY SH!T
Oh please tell me you are joking. Bradley is the better fighter and has more skills. Canelo is a plodder. Every neutral fan will pick Bradley as the better win. Poll here is very accurate. When asked who would win between Pac and Floyd here, Floyd always win the poll(he is the favorite).
You value ESB forum polls? I don't respect the opinions of most folks on here because they can't rationalize their claims. You think I care about polls? In the poll between Algieri and Provodnikov, Provodnikov received 60+% of the votes. Yet when Pac signed to fight Algieri right after, you could check the public poll and see that posters who voted for "Provodnikov won" were then saying how Algieri bested him and how they scored it for Algieri and how it was a great win, blah blah blah. Polls on this site are popularity contests. Always.
False report from a 'news' source in Manilla citing an article from TMZ that mysteriously doesn't exist... Go figure!
I agree, Canelo's very overrated, done nothing except close fight with Trout and gift decision over Lara.
What's the problem? These kinds of sources were more than adequate for all the Floydettes to make a dozen threads on how Pac is "broke".
lol......some rich people kill me. It's like they have so much money they have to find new ways to waste it.