Mayweather Toughest Fight - Roach

It would be nice to see Mayweather get humbled......but honestly except of a lucky punch that ends things abruptly, I dont see a scenario where Pacquiao can impose his talents on Mayweather.

For as long as Pacquiao is aggressive, Mayweather is going to have an answer for every Pacquiao manuever.

I'm of the belief that Mayweather's one punch counters is going to have more effect on Pacquiao than Marquez' right hand counters.

When Marquez counters, its usually in combination......
Mayweather does'nt often throw in combination, but he does load up a bit more with his one shot counters.

......and seeing that there faster and quicker than Marquez', those are the shots that can actually hurt a figher enough to put him on ***** street.

That right hand counter by Mayweather off of Pacquiao's straight left, is going to be a complete blurr to Pacquiao.

With Pacquiao providing the aggressiveness, I can definitely see a scenario where Mayweather can land a big shot even early that could spell the beggining of the end for an early KO stoppage in favor of Mayweather.

I believe Mayweather's power is being severely underrated, that people are not seeing where Mayweather can do serious damage off the counter.


I'm of the belief that its going to be rather simplistic for Mayweather.
I believe Pacquiao's aggression will stall significantly after 2 or 3 rounds, and if Pacquiao choses to take the chance and go for broke, more than likely it is he who will be put to sleep.

You just dont walk in there against the caliber of fighter of Mayweather, with his speed and quickness on the counter, and think you're going to lay shots at him the way Pacquiao's has layed hands on DLH, Hatton, and Cotto.
Thats just not going to happen.

 

Mayweather has no power as a welterweight. Mayweather does not have the workrate to keep up with Pac.

 

Exactly. :yep:good

 

I don't get it either. It was a fine performance on Floyd's behalf, but if they're trying to imply that Gatti is anywhere near the matchup problem that Pacquiao is, I'm just not seeing that at all. They're different classes of fighters.

 

Lol, floyd did not adjust, he merely took advantage of zab's sudden diminished workrate and unwillingness to trigger his punches. there was one moment in round 3 or four when he backed up mayweather to the ropes with a straight left. mayweather just covered up and did not punch back. Zab judah after landing a flurry suddenly stepped back and allowed mayweather to come back, and he just went to the corner waiting to counter floyd. WTF was that, either his mind was not right or that he gassed out after landing a flurry.

If that same Zab judah has a stronger will and a better stamina, Floyd would have had a very hard time coming back because he was failing to adjust against zab, its just that zab couldn't sustain what he was doing wihout fading away

 

Floyd couldn't KO a flatfooted marquez who was defenseless already against his attacks.

No its not going to be easy for floyd to land, pacquiao is not just gonna stand there staring at him and allow floyd to tee off.

Floyd would fight a tight fight and his best chance is to lower pacquiao's workrate. I just don't see that, pacquiao will make his openings and will land hard on mayweather. he could counter once or twice at each opportunity but would be mostly covering up while pacquiao is attacking. You may not agree but i will bump this thread on march 14 lol

 

Mayweather hit lightweight Marquez 290 times and couldn't finish him (lightweight + 9 pounds of added fat). Therefore, you believe Floyd can hurt Pac. :think

 

Obviously alot of you dont have a clue about style issues.......

Marquez did not attack Mayweather the way Pacquiao is expected to attack him..........
Marquez throws in combination, but he fights in a controlled fashion.......and he manuevers his head and waist much more efficiently than Pacquiao when he goes on the offense.
......so obviously Pacquiao is going to provide the type of aggression that should make Mayweather's connects that more effective.

When Mayweather was asked why he did'nt go for the KO when he dropped Marquez in the 2nd, his response was that he did go for the KO, but that Marquez was still very aware and defending himself very well.

Marquez has been on the seat of his pants a few times and we know he adapts very well to defend.
......what will Pacquiao do if he finds himself in that position.
.....probably panick and start throwing punches in bunches, that will only make it easier for Mayweather to connect to end it.

Marquez' defense imo is definitely better than Pacquiao's.

You guys are underrating Mayweather's power........it was Mayweather who made a fully hydrated 154 lbs DLH's legs buckle on a couple of occasions, where Pacquiao who hit DLH at will never did such a thing.

I wonder who's shots are going to have more effect?:think
Its a no brainer for me........Mayweather unleaches as quick as a cobra, thats something Pacquiao has never been faced with before.

There speed is comparable, but imo Mayweather is by far quicker than Pacquiao!

 

Pac has never fought someone as elusive as Floyd. All his big fights have been against fighters who come towards you. I will be interested to see how Pac reacts to this. He will need to come up with a whole new game plan. If he starts getting frustrated as he did against Cotto in the later rounds. When Cotto was in survival mode and he was constantly have to chase him around the ring. His frustration could leave gaps for Floyd to counter.

 

i think people are forgetting one important thing here. Freddie Roach. He's gonna have a masterplan that Pac is gonna stick to. he's not regarded as the worlds best trainer for nothing!

 

I know styles. Been boxing fan 29 years. Your post makes Pacquiao sound like some tomato can that Floyd will just destroy. Floyd "brittle hands" Mayweather couldn't hurt a lightweight and Pac just TKO'd a true welterweight in Cotto. Pac's problem won't be getting hurt from Floyd's potshotting and running. His problem will be chasing down and landing enough punches on a defensive master like Floyd. IMO the perfect counterpuncher to Pac was Marquez who throws them in bunches. One shot at a time isn't going to stop Pac from advancing on Floyd. Pac will take that 1 punch and throw 5 back. It's a stylistic nightmare for both fighters. Pac's never faced a defensive master and quick handed boxer like Floyd, and Floyd's never faced a whirling typhoon like Pacquiao that doesn't stop coming and who's just proven he can take punches from heavier guys. Pac didn't have the power against Oscar having just come from 1 fight at 135 (Diaz) and 130 with Marquez just 9 months before. And Oscar had one of the best chins of all time, never ever saw him hurt with a head shot. You can rest assured Pac has settled into his new weight now, Hatton and Cotto will tell you Pac has power, you don't have to hear that from me.

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I actually think you truly see this fight as you've described it in this thread.

The sad thing is that's a bad thing.

 

Caneman, if Pacquiao beatsdown Mayweather I'm going to have fun watching it.:yep

........we've been boxing fans for about the same amount of years......and from my experience in viewing it, my estimation is that Pacquiao is going to have a hell of a time finding Mayweather, and I believe he'll get frustrated in the process.

One particular event that occured in the Cotto fight sealed my conviction of what I believe will transpire.

In a fight that was already in the bag, Pacquiao suddenly stopped chasing and signaled Cotto not to run but to stand and fight........if Pacquiao who was winning handily was frustrated chasing Cotto, what will it be when he's well behind on the cards and completely frustrated with trying to hit Mayweather with a clean shot??????

Pacquiao imo is not going to have the patience or the dicipline to even begin, much less deal with Mayweather's antics.

Thats just the way I see it, and I'll be glad to be wrong.....I much like Pacquiao the fighter and the way he conducts himself as opposed to Mayweather.

 

Can you imagine......according to el mosquito, Zab was'nt doing what he's never done before and could'nt sustain what he had been doing early but has never taken it past that........thus Mayweather had nothing to do with Zab's undoing!


El Mosquito, we already know Zab's a mental midget.......had he done what you wanted him to do, he'd still be undefeated and champion today......in fact, he'd probably would have already outboxed Pac's ears off by now!

 

Are you serious?

This subject has been discussed several times, but here's my take on it. Mayweather has a great chance of winning the fight, but to say that he is going to hit Pacman often and hard, GTFO of here with that crap. You just underestimated Pacman's speed and skills. Everyone and their brother said the same thing that his opponents will destroy Pacman because he lacks balance and skills, but look what happened to his last four fights. All of them were destroyed, so never underestimate the Pacman because you'll be eating crows in the end just the like the rest of the critics and doubters. Trust me, Floyd will have a hard time come fight time. What's really happening now is Psy-Ops and both camps are trying to get the leverage psychologically, but at fight night I will go with Pacman's workrate against Floyd's defense. IMHO, offense is the best defense when it comes to fighting. I think Floyd is the most skillful boxer today, but you will see him get rattled in this fight due to Pacman's offense. Yes, I know about Mayweather's reach, counter punching ability, stamina etc etc, but Mayweather has never been in trouble in his entire boxing career. We shall see how is he going to overcome Pacman's intelligent assault. Tactically, Floyd is the master but majority of his game lately is going backwards not forward. So, my questions are what will happen if he loses ground? How will he block or avoid everything coming his way? IMHO, Once he loses ground it will be pretty difficult blocking and avoiding Pacman's barrage.