Mayweather Toughest Fight - Roach

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I'll be rooting for Pacquiao but my mind tells me Floyd is very very hard to beat on points. He has a near perfect defense too, so means it's hard to beat him by KO. But on the other hand, I have doubted Pacquiao twice now (ODLH and Cotto) so i wouldn't want to be sure that Floyd will win. Especially that Pac improves tremendously every fight (i.e. he proves he has a good chin in his last fight).

 

divac. this is in answer to all your pac / fmj bias analysis where you put marquez in the picture: You always seem to "FORGET" that the Marquez that FMJ beat isn't the same Marquez that Pac had a tough fight on due to being almost 20 lbs division heavier and almost 1.5 years older, not to mention Pac isn't the same fighter as well. PLEASE impute that thought in your analysis, if you do that you will be credible again.

Also, people that have an experience in boxing would know that: the GAMEPLAN changes or hard to follow when the fighter starts to get hit / hurt. Example of this is, Cotto had a good first round by being a counter puncher in his fight against Pacquiao, come round 2-12 he had a hard time following the camp's gameplan due to being hurt.

 

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One of the most ******ed reply. Everybody gives a **** how he does it, we pay to watch, to get entertained, to actually jump out of excitement.

Only people who rides on Floyds dick would give that kind of remark.

Im actually dissapointed to hear this kind of ****. Maybe you should start watching something else?

 

I dont need to go any further than the bottom line........

DLH, Hatton, and Cotto are all seek and destroy type fighters that rely heavily on using their left hooks as their main weapons........

Whenever a skilled fighter has boxed Paquiao, he's looked very beatable........
....in fact Morales outclassed Pac by boxing, in the late rounds Morales switched to southpaw and integrated brawling tactics into the picture and Pacquiao turned a one sided fight into one that looked alot closer on the cards.......

JMM twice schooled Pacquiao by boxing, on the backfoot countering his every move.

No fighter since the Marquez fight has even been close to be labeled a great boxer....one with great technical skill.

Thats Mayweather.....he's not a seek and destroy fighter......he does'nt rely on one particular hand to do damage........

Mayweather incorporates everything that Marquez does plus he has the advantage of having physical traits that Marquez does'nt........add one of the soundest defenses in the history of the sport to that and on my end of viewing matters, I'm looking at a one sided mismatch of major proportions.

 

Jesus, there is a reason why Mayweather came out of his hiding hole after Margarito and Paul Williams sent him there.........

......he peeked out that hiding hole and smelled Manny Pacquiao!!!yep



That last part was meant to get the *******s all riled up.......sadly for Manny Pacquiao, its the truth!

 

I know you are hoping deep-inside that Pacquiao will do worse than Marquez's performance over mayweather, that is called pac-envy lol :yep:yep

i think you are way off in your analysis. one is that you think that the flat-footed powerless marquez who couldn't even fend off mayweather with a jab much less mount an effective offense or counter has better defense than pacquiao. At welterweight, the elusiveness and movement of pacquiao makes his defense a level above marquez's. Marquez was getting tagged all night and its just that mayweather couldn't tap that chin with enough power to KO him. Cotto would have killed marquez if he was in that ring last september and he wouldn't have trouble landing at will :yep

anyway, if i'm wrong and mayweather did makes a boxing clinic (a CLINIC as what you described and not just to squeek out a close SD win) with pacquiao on march 13, i'll be willing to eat crow and finally recognize you as a true boxing expert :good

 

Boxing fans.. for one.

 

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marquez mayweather fought not the same marquez manny fought. when has a featherweight been successful at welter? only armstrong and oscar who has a tall frame have done it vs. high opposition. floyd did it to, but vs. weak opposition. that he did it is no doubt, but fighting the baldomirs and judahs aint helping him.

marquez's best fighting weight is 135, not ****ing 144! still, i'd pick floyd to win, but it would of been much more competitive. floyd still beats cotto, damaged version of cotto, but not in the fashion manny did. for every 1-2 punches floyd throws manny is gonna throw 4-5 right back at him. pacquiao gonna take this one. maybe floyd might take him in a rematch, but when manny starts outlanding floyd he's gonna force floyd to fight, and that's what manny will want.

 

Detailed assesment, as usual Divac, but do you really believe that Mayweather would open up his offense bigtime against an animal whose power and speed had made an impression to his father that he may get hurt? I don't think so. Mayweather would probably calculate his way to a decision. If he was not able to knock out a willing fighter in JMM, who is nowhere as quick as Pacquiao but who was agressively initiating the action, I can not see how he would change from a defensive first boxer to someone who is willing to risk being hit to land a harder one-punch counter. I just can not see it. Mayweather, for all of his technical brilliance, athleticism, and skills, can be guilty of not putting effort to seriously hurt his opponents. He has mastered his defensive stance of not getting hurt to the point that he won't try to risk being hit to put further damage against his foe. If you watch all of his past few fights, he always reverts back to his defensive stance after a counter or offensive attack. And against Pacquiao, whose quickness should equal his, I don't think he would move out of that comfort zone just to hurt him.

 

hell no. mayweather is an overwhelming favorite...

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