Mayweather used RBT to duck Prime Manny Pacqauaio

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  1. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hokay Mr Expert, you know more than USADA and VADA. :patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  2. Gambino

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    Urine tests are easy to beat.
     
  3. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    actually you just have to be a Fl0m0 to know that the PED's test was legit due to the qualifications of Pac:

    been KO'd several times already
    smaller man
    fighting leftovers at catch weights
    fighting washed-up fighters
    :deal

    will all of the above, Floyd and his legion of fans say that the PED's test request was legit and necessary :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Boxing master is starting to sound like Mayweather lol
     
  5. bodyopus

    bodyopus Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson demanded Holyfield do extra drug testing. Like any normal fighter, Holyfield agreed and then took it out of Tyson's azz inside the ring.
     
  6. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is simple. When Floyd first made his duck -- after Cotto was destroyed by Pacquiao -- Pacquiao was the king of the sport. Pacquiao was pretty much universally regarded as P4P #1 then. Here's Tim Smith on the subject. Smith is a guy that many people feel supports Floyd.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...-12th-wbo-welterweight-title-article-1.417141

    So when Floyd ducked Pac after the Cotto-Pac fight, Pac was the A-side guy. At least in terms of standing in the sport (if not PPV sales; I'd have to look up the comparisons then). And this is why Pac refused the various Team Floyd blood tests. Floyd had never asked any of his opponents to be tested beyond normal previously, and here he was asking the #1 P4P king to do extra testing. Basically, Pac was like "f**k off" to Floyd. Which was what he should have done. Pac ran the sport then. You don't let lesser guys dictate to you.

    Floyd got saved because of Pac's "loss" to Bradley and particularly by the Marquez KO of Pac. That's what got Floyd back to A-side, along with the large PPV for the Canelo fight. I remember all the Floyd fans with the Pac memes on social media after the Marquez KO. They knew that finally Floyd was off the hook for ducking Pac all those years.

    Mayweather was scared to death of the Pac that destroyed Hatton and Cotto. I don't think there's any chance that Floyd could have beaten that version of Pacquiao. And Floyd didn't seem to think he could beat him, either.

    As I said in my first post, though, Floyd is a good businessman and he knows when to pick guys for fights. Faded Mosley, Faded Cotto and now Faded Pacquiao who has suffered a brutal KO by a smaller fighter in Marquez. Avoided Margarito and Williams whose volume punching and size would have been nightmares for Floyd. Wants no part of Golovkin.

    This is how Floyd has done things, and his supporters eat it up like candy.

    I respect Floyd as a fighter and a businessman. He's a great fighter. But you gotta tell it like it is. Floyd wanted NO part of the Pacquiao that destroyed Hatton and Cotto.
     
  7. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: Relax sweetcheeks. I'm no expert on WADA/USADA but I know about the testing protocol. It's been well documented not just for boxing....but for the Olympics.

    Tell me this........what is PROVEN the most effective way to catch dirty athletes.....not just in boxing, but ALL sports that have randomized testing?

    Once you find that answer come back and talk to me about the hardline stance Floyd HAD to test all the way up to the day of the fight AND the fact that he wanted OVERLY aggressive INVASIVE blood testing.
     
  8. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many boxers have been caught by Blood testing? Now tell me how many have been caught in JUST the last 5 years by Urine tests? What's easier to beat based on your findings?
     
  9. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson REQUESTED a POST fight blood AND urine test that was OUTSIDE the requirements of the NSAC.

    Tyson didn't make baseless accusations leading up to the Mega fight with Holy. He simply requested an extra test, POST fight. Tyson handle the negotiations like a professional looking to have a positive outcome.

    Floyd started off blasting accusations that were unfounded and were proven slanderous and he DEMANDED not ONE extra test...he CREATED his own testing JUST for Manny with whom he really had no intentions of fighting 5 or 6 years ago.

    Floyd bamboozled a small percentage of fans into buying that he really wanted to fight Manny and that Blood tests were so important that it gave Floyd an out to duck.

    Of course we've all read the press. By and large the strong majority of the population know Floyd is the only reason the fight never happened when it should have.......and by Floyd's own admission he is the only reason this fight is happening now. Horses mouth.
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Fights signed, Pac agreed to testing. He's not complaining, you shouldn't either.
     
  11. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very true.......The fight we've all been waiting on is finally on. And I'm just as excited now as I was 5 or 6 years ago when i thought this fight would happen.
     
  12. Just Blaze

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    I never got this line of thinking, it never seemed to make sense.

    Mayweather brought up drug testing, alright, that is one action. That isn't really a road block, it's saying "As a preventative measure against one of us maybe cheating, let's do this", and instead of accepting, Pacquiao said no, so Floyd pulled out.

    You can say what you want about if he would have come up with another reason why the fight wouldn't have happened, whatever, that's speculation and it holds no weight, he requested drug testing, Pacquiao said no, so Floyd is using it to duck him? He knew that Pacquiao would deny it is I guess what you're saying, so Floyd can read minds and knew just the right buttons to push?

    It sounds really good on paper to say "FLOYD DID THIS"", but it rarely holds up to scrutiny.
     
  13. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    2 weeks until the extinction of Pacturds, that L is almost here :deal
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    All he had to do was take the test and there would have been a fight. Also, why have the KO's suddenly stopped for Pacquiao since blood testing has been around and he has been using it for his fights? Why? Tell me.
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I like Pac and all but I hope his legion of weirdos disappear after this fight. Pac fans are OK but the Pac-extremists need a good whoopin.