Mayweather v Pac - fight off!

I've never hidden my PacMan loyalties, but I too like Jet feel massively let down by the botched handling of this from Pac's team.

More importantly, do both fighters seriously not want $40m enough to bend and make it work? Bloody hell, they must be already well sorted enough for the rest of their lives to pass this up.

As the for the Manny doesn't like needles, that is the most ****-weak excuse since Warney's famous "My Mum gave me the tablet (diuretic), and told me it was a fluid pill!"

:bart

 

agree i like Pac more than Floyd but sadly i think he might be on the gear.:-(

 

I love Pacs style as much as anyone mate. He's a great little fighter. I've always been suspicious of his recent performances though...and it's not like he or his team have now given me a reason not to be atsch

I mean, Arum is at it again. So they had this bloody mediation thing the other day. Funny...Arums "compromise" was to reduce the 30 days to 24 days. Pac and his team didn't compromise anything. They got caught with Manny taking a blood test less than 30 days before a fight. How stupid would they look to still try to demand a 30 day window when there's proof Manny already took a test 24 days before (HBO 24/7 series)?

I guess if Pac had the blood taken on day 23, he wouldn't have knocked out Hatton cold in 2 rounds. LOL.

Floyd wants to fight. He has accepted:

- 50/50 split
- 8 0z gloves when he could have tried to enforce Nevada's rule of 10 oz gloves for fights 147 and above.
- Accepted Pacs ridiculous demand of a $10 mill penalty for every tick over 147.
- reduced the random testing demand to a 14 day cut off.

A far cry from Pac and his team who have basically lied through their teeth every time they have opened their mouth.

 

Of course their is mate. Not one of their reasons is one bit plausible or believable.

 

Floyd's official statement:

"Throughout this whole process I have remained patient, but at this point I am thoroughly disgusted that Pacquiao and his representatives are trying to blame me for the fight not happening when clearly the blame is on them. "

"First and foremost, not only do I want to fight Manny Pacquiao, I want to whip his punk ass. "

"Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected. I am still proposing the 14-day window but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30-day cut-off. The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests. "

"In my opinion it is Manny Pacquiao and his team who are denying the people a chance to see the biggest fight ever. I know the people will see through their smokescreens and lies. I am ready to fight and sign the contract. Manny needs to stop making his excuses, step up and fight"

 

Also...

The mediator judge Weinstein, issued a statement saying that Arums claims to the media that Floyds team caused the fight to not go ahead were false. He also stated that the mediation was agreed upon to be kept confidential and that any reporting outside the mediation would lead to himself correcting any misinformation given to the public.

LOL...Arum couldn't keep his mouth shut yet again. He's a mess.

 

Now there's whispers that Michael Moorer was fired by Roach when he began to ask too many questions about Manny's supplements....he is supposedly the guy who tipped off Mayweather....

 

I read that too. But Moorer is just jealous like Floyd, Cintron, Malignaggi, Floyd Snr...

 

**** aye, if that is true then it has sealed the deal for me.

Pac you dirty little cheat

 

True or not, ofcourse he was fired - if for anything it's talking to the Mayweather camp.

 

I don't buy this Michael Moorer 'blew the whistle' ****. He's the poor ******* who's going to be the easy scapegoat. Do you think if he had ambitions to be a trainer in his own right that it's in his best interests for the future, even after being sacked from the Wildcard to 'tell tales out of school'. I'm far from defending Pac or anyone if they are using and get caught, but no way would Moorer have done this.

Simple fact of the matter is, everyone's had doubts about Pac. PBF played the card with regards to testing and Pac's ran and doesn't want a bar of it, hence who's at fault - Pac!

I'm not saying Pac's guilty either, but if he had no problems/doubts etc and he's 100% clean, he should have had no problems being tested, not coming up with some of THE most lame excuses ever used in history and walking away from an expected $40m!

Moorer is just the poor ******* who'll be the butt of consiparacy theories...

:bart

 

Fact is we don't know ****.

Pac's behaviour is suss, but it seems to me his team all miscommunicated and it made things look probably worse than they are.

I give Pac the benefit of the doubt and from most reports by those in an impartial professional position state that taking tests leading up to the fight, ceasing 24 days prior to it and continuing 1 afterwards are certainly enough to detect anything they are looking for anyway. If what they are on is good enough to escape the day after fight test then they wont be detected by a random one 14 days before it...

I've spoken to medical and sports professionals I know and seen alot of the reports being thrown around now and that's pretty much where I sit on that. 24 days is good enough.

I don't agree with Pac's stance, because honestly, what is his stance??! What have we actually heard from Pac, particularly through this mediation process, or atleast recently that states why he wont take the tests??

We have conflicting reports from his team and they need to clear that **** up stat.

Either way, if it's something that puts an inkling of doubt into his mind when he's about to go up against a person who as it stands is pretty much P4P#1 along with yourself, I sure as hell wouldn't want to do it... it's certainly a massive flaw for Pac not to be able to do it if he can't for that reason, but it's reason enough if it makes him doubt himself even for a second come fight time.

ESPECIALLY if the request from the other team is unreasonable. And by my definition above, it can be seen as unreasonable when the alternative being presented is enough for the experts commenting on the issue so far (bar a few)...

In regards to Floyd - I give him the benefit of the doubt too and understand why now he is forcing the best possible testing you can get.

Thing is, he is requesting something from his opponent that no other boxer is legally obliged to do in order to commission a fight.

He's up against a guy his papa and uncle both think are on roids (which is typical of those two if you ask me anyway - nobody can be better than Floyd, if they are they're cheating??!). The Mayweathers are egotistical pricks on a good day - they are part to blame too.

Regardless of where the argument is at now, it's a clash of ego's more than anything at this point. Floyd demands this - Pac denies it.

Personally I am disappointed in them both and think it's a massive failure on behalf of boxing to not let this fight happen. If this were any other sport these two would have been forced to fight by now, according to the authorities conditions.

The fact that the sport needs an authority like that to make things like this happen is a serious blight on the current way things work...

 

i believe @ their supposed mediation there wasnt a mediator but a drinx waiter n theyve both decided 2 fight some1 else and let the fight build even more...hope they both get knocked out n they lose their 40mil each(i dont really hope they get knoxk out)but after being a paying fight fan 4 20 yrs i am a bit pisd at the both of ...what happens if yuri beats pac on points...superfight no more...

 

if only someone would have put the same effort into their boxing career.....:yep