Mayweather v Pacquaio - who wins?

hONESTLY PAL, (oops caps) look through the rest. Anyways, I was responding to Kosaros, a guy who sees the same way I do (the rational way):good

 

Ya i was following most of it, you are getting a large amount of kickback for going against the grain. But even though I would rank Pac higher, and he has fought better opposition no question, I think Mayweather has the tools to win this fight. But like you said, it is 50-50.

 

Yep. He has some good wins but his record leaves a lot to be desired:

De La Hoya - Best name on his record albeit it past it, won a close decision but give him credit moving up in weight;
Corrales - In hindsight he was overrated, but was a P4P top fighter at the time and possibly Floyd's best performance;
Castillo - Very controversial decision in the 1st fight (I scored it a draw many scored it for Castillo) and a closeish decision in the 2nd fight;
Hernandez - Top 5 fighter in the super-feather weight division for the best part of a decade. Mayweather dominated him and was a very good win;

Then you have the likes of Hatton, JMM, Judah, Chavez, Baldomir etc. Nothing spectacular (when considering the intangibles of certain fighters).

 

A ****ing solid resume but nothing to deserve the constant plaudits he gets on here IMO :good

 

Yes, I should add that I think his record leaves a lot to be desired compared to the ATG's of boxing. I don't want people giving me **** as well :yep

 

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Id say Pacs record can be torn to shreds too. His win in the 1st MAB fight was a good win but since then each of his opponents can be scrutinised as over the hill, coming off a loss or damaged goods

 

You can I guess, but his record is still much better than Mayweather's at this time :good

 

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Once PBF deals with Pacman this T-shirt is getting framed

 

You might aswell get it framed now mate because Mayweather will beat Pacquiao.

 

with all respect, pacquiao has become a much better boxer and has tuned his skills a hell of a lot.
he now keeps his feet on the floor so his balance is much better, hes stronger, his head to body to head to body combos are superbly fast and powerful, he has also shown that he can take a punch from a welterweight against cotto. i think the pac that fought marquez would have been beaten to **** by cotto.

also, think about floyds defence... he rolls punches off his shoulder yes? Pacquiao is a southpaw so think about it, where is pacquiaos left hand coming from opposed to a right handed fighter? floyd would have trouble rolling it off his shoulder so he would have to keep away from the ropes and keep moving to pacquiaos left so he wouldnt have as much leverage on his str8 left. theres so many aspects of pacquiaos game that floyd must beware of, and pacquiao COULD realistically beat floyd, but i too think that floyd is too smart and he knows everything about pacquiao, just as we the boxing fans do :good

 

You are assuming that Pac doesn't know anything about Floyd? :good

this fight HAS to happen, everything about it would be epic. The classic styles clash, the unhittable defensive master and ring general, and frenetic offensive buzzsaw who has travelled up the weights towards the aforementioned P4P.

So many things make it interesting: the fact that Pac has transcended Floyd in terms of resume and popularity, yet Floyd has certain attributes that could be seen as the foundations to beat Pac. Pac has the capability of making Floud wish he had more than his defence to shield him. It's that kinda fight.

For the good of boxing, and as just rewards for the kinda people that post on these forums day in day out, let's hope this fight happens.

Floyd winning a competitive fight with Shane could also add fire to the mix, some may see it as a positive for FloydS chances against Pac, some a negative, again, interesting stuff. 24/7 would actually have 4 brilliant episodes with no filler and ultimate tension.

Still, I'm doubtful.

 

yeah of course FREDDY ROACH knows about floyd. he would base his fight on getting floyd with his back to the ropes and throwing head to body combinations, he would fight to knock him out. :good

but thats the best thing about floyd... he knows exactly what his own strengths and weaknesses are and he knows his opponents do too. i think if this fight happens, floyd will just keep moving away from pac and throw fast one-two combinations at him all night. pac is great at coming forward, but nor cotto, clottey, de la hoya OR hatton gave him a reason not to. even doing something as simple as putting your left glove in his face will stop him coming forward so much, as he has to work around your arm before he comes at you, then floyd will know exactly when he is going to attack and then move out to the side and back away again. i hope im being clear and not sounding like too much of an idiot here :huh

 

Fleaman, I agree with you. Here's a simple piece of comparison:

Floyd struggled with the pressure and work rate of the crude, 1-D Castillo. He won a very close fight at best against a limited slugger.

Floyd then struggled for four rounds against the pot-shotting but super-fast southpaw Judah. He was taking shots, struggling to adapt to Judah's awkward style. Unfortunately for Judah, he's also pretty 1-D and took a beating - which was pretty impressive from Floyd.

Floyd then struggled with an old, inactive Oscar - who gave him fits with a jab and high-work rate for seven rounds. Floyd wasn't ad******g as much as Goldie blew his wad.

Let's add that together: struggled with fast opponents, southpaw fighters and high workrate. Which fighter has all of those things combined and with nearly flawless decision making? Oh wait - Manny.

Floyd's pot-shotting worked because he can almost always out-speed his guy. Manny's as fast, if not faster, than Floyd.

Marquez had success against Manny because he's a warrior and knew that to land, he'd have to stay in the pocket with Manny at times. He knew he'd have to trade and hope his more varied shots would land. We've never seen Floyd prepared to do that. He wears the guy down and goes to work.

I think that will cost him against Manny. He'll take four to five rounds to get the measure of Manny's approach, during which time he'll have either lost all five rounds or taken some heavy shots while he adjusted. He'll take a couple of the middle rounds but Manny will still be like a buzzsaw, and Mayweather won't be able to discourage him.

It'll be a close affair in the final four rounds, nip and tuck, superior punching versus incredible offensive arsenal. But it'll be too late bar a knockdown and Floyd will lose 7-5.

 

Mayweather will be too clever, his defensive skills to good, his accuracy to sharp for Pacquiao.