Mayweather v Pacquiao negotiations.

again right now pac is prob my fav fighter because of the way he fights. try to keep the debate civil?

anyway, mosley is a 147 fighter, pac at the time was 138 when he fought hatton, why should he jump up so much? they went for the guy who defeated mosley in cotto at 145 to see how he would do at the weight. you can bet your ass if mosley was free now the fight would be made

 

true but i said it wouldnt affect pac as much as floyd because he still could fight very good boxers where floyds fights will be limited as quality fighters are being well taken out by pac...

the terms are on the table, i personally dont think pac is being unreasonable

lets just agree to the normal boxing rules and get this epic fight on, i will be betting on a mayweather win tho!

 

pac recently said he can have more money and any test he wants i dont think there will be a problem

 

come on now i mean when his stuff were high in the past 10 fights or so

end of the day pac will be the toughest fight floyd goes for by a mile imo and i think even he will admit it if he wins

we know what pac is doing, the man is killing careers, the man is destroying the will of boxers right now

diaz 15 months it took him

hatton pacman sent him to obesity and retirement

oscar and cotto are were humiliated like hatton imo nobody would have predicted how one sided the fights were

i think mayweather delayed the fight on purpose to have more time to prepare and plan for pac to get the win

like i said i think floyd will win and will be betting on a floyd decision win but you can bet your ass floyd is worried, he is damn worried about being the next victim

 

im sorry bro but honesty and mayweather never comes together

i just cant see how following the rules of boxing is unreasonable. remember you said both fighters have a huge ego's and the one who is going to back down is the one in the wrong imo

 

I want to keep it civil.

Manny did the same thing by selecting Cotto over Mosley that Floyd did in 2006. Floyd had his choice of either Baldomir or Margo and he chose Baldomir for the same money. Both were champions but Baldomir had the regarded titles. Ever since, people have accused Mayweather of ducking Margo.

Pac took the Cotto fight and the lowly regarded WBO belt instead of fighting the real WW champ, Mosley. Watch Clottey/Cotto and Margo/Mosley again and tell me who you would rather fight. The Mosley/Cotto fight is no longer relevant after Margo demolished Cotto.

Enough with the Matt Hatton talk as well. That is pure BS. That's like me saying that Mayweather's legacy won't be tarnished since he will fight the Pavlik/Martinez winner while Pacquiao is going to fight Valero. What's the point of using speculated, unmade fights in this discussion?

 

i would just like to make the point which i think you are neglecting mate, now when pac took the cotto fight at 145 ahead of mosley, pac was a 138 fighter, heck he wasnt even a proper light welter, he was making a huge jump up!

it was only logical pac fights a good boxer but not the best to test if he can hack it at that weight. now that we know pac can hack it he will fight mosley and that fight would have been made after cotto if mosley and berto wasnt arranged at the time

as for floyd, he was already 147 right? so he had the choice from 2 147 fighters

one was a lesser fighter with 8m was it?

one was a good fighter with the same money

he chose money over legacy and frankly deserves the criticism from pure boxing fans for that reason alone

if pac went to 140 and fought say urgango instead of hatton, then people would have had a real go including me.

 

Mate, don't buy in to that nonsense. Mayweather doesn't give two sh*ts about "cleaning up the sport of boxing". This drug testing campaign is purely born out of his attempt to get a psychological edge over Pacquiao before they step in the ring. Nothing more!

Ever since his bout with Oscar, he's had the bargaining power over all his opponents. If he really was concerned about the drug issue, he would have had no problem in implementing this procedure in his fights against Marquez and Hatton. Him asking Mosley to comply is only an attempt to justify his claims of wanting to do it for the sport. And asking

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The biggest threat to Mayweather vs Pacqiuao, will be Mayweather's unwarranted testing demands

 

I agree with you but we can't then give Pac the pass for fighting Cotto since "Cotto beat Mosley". Cotto was a much easier fight for Pac and a good first test at WW, no doubt.

 

how come manny did the same as floyd? cotto had already defeated mosley. beside cotto & mosley are way better than baldomir.

 

yeah i was wrong on that part but i think the rest was valid

you have to take baby steps before you can take full ones

but i think the point rico just made is valid, mayweather is getting a mental advantage over pac, make no mistake pac will be the biggest test by far for floyd and he knows it. at the moment pac is on a roll, mayweather needs to stop the bandwagon and he has tried to do that.


even tho i think floyd will win i kinda hope he doesnt, can you imagine his interviews if he does the guy is going to go ali take 2 on us

 

Mosley was the real champ and begging Manny to fight. Manny took the easier fight by selection Cotto over Mosley.

Margo may have ended Cotto's career as an elite fighter (TBD, we'll see) while Mosley absolutely murdered Margo.

Based on their last fights and when Manny made the decision, Mosley >>>>Cotto. Who would win if they fought today, Cotto or Mosley?

Not rocket science here.