Mayweather versus Pacquiao: determines the greatest fighter of there generation.

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  1. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac-Man and PBF should both be considered top 25-30 ATG's when its all said and done. Both are 5 weight class titlists, Both have basically dominated most their best competition. Also it would be a great matchup. Mayweather has a slightly harder time with lefties with hand speed and can occasionally be tagged with the straight left(Corley and Judah), and Pac-Man has trouble with great counterpunchers or fighters that make him fight going backwards(Morales and Marquez). I have to say Mayweather has to be the favorite. The weight disparity wont be as much as we may think. Yes, Pac-Man started at 112 but he was a teenager and has matured physically. He is by no means a natural welterweight, but nor is Mayweather who competed in the Olympics at featherweight and campaigned at 130-135 most his career. Lets not forget Mayweather was at 135-140 just 3 years ago and is a small wleterweight. This fight could be at a catchweight. Should either fighter win, IMO both should be mentioned in the same breathe and the Hagler, Leonards, and Peps.
     
  2. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Mayweather is a natural WW. He started his career at 19 weighing 130 and has settled into the WW division. Cotto is also a natural WW but Margarito, Cintron and Williams aren't. I think a catchweight with Pac runs the risk of Floyd not being 100% which was Roach's plan with DLH and proved to be critical for Oscar. Same would go for Floyd.

    According to his trainer Pacman's ideal weight is 140 so I think it's only fair to let Floyd weigh in at 147. Pac isn't gonna weigh in at 147 at any point in his career.

    I think Floyd will have enough rust in the ring to make a Pacman fight more competitive than it should but I don't think Pac could pull it off. This would decide the fighter of a generation.
     
  3. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    agree..but i think pbf is a fairly strong ww as he showed against hatton
     
  4. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    also agree...PBF stays at 147...no more dry fighters for pac
     
  5. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I see what youre saying. I dont think it could be no more than 5-10 pounds between both them as far as their walk around weight. As far as DLH he was weight drained, and hasnt fought at 147 for over 7 years for a reason. As far as ring rust...I dont think it would be a problem. Mayweather wil be 32, hasnt taken alot of punishment and doesnt let himself go between fights, and plus he knows how important this fight would be. Pac-Mans speed and busy style would trouble Mayweaher and he'd have to adjust similar to how he did against Judah. The shoulder roll defense isnt as effective against lefties. A peek-a-boo would work coupled with his reflexes. PaC-mAN will be surprised when he gets in the ring and he cant push Mayweather around, who although is a cutie type has never been pushed around on the inside by physically stronger fighters than Manny.(Hatton, Castillo, DLH etc.) Also Mayweathers jab and counterpunching will frustrate many and many is a great midrange fighter but on the inside and on the outside Mayweather will have the advantage. The Geography of the fight will likely determine who wins more so than speed, power and strength IMO.
     
  6. Nawfal

    Nawfal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pacman is too small for mayweather
     
  7. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Floyd may beat Pacquiao but it doesn't mean that he's the greater fighter, if you catch my drift. Floyd has to take on those big bad wolves.
     
  8. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    I think I'll pick Mayweather all the way to fight night but the only way I see Pacman winning is by breaking Mayweather the master boxer. I think Pac is capable of winning that way.
     
  9. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    bull **** there is an un fair size advantage for mayweather. Roy Jones is about 10 miles ahead of every one for this generation and there is about 10 fighters like de la hoya mayweather pac man calzaghe b-hop barrera morales mosley marquez and lennox lewis who are on about the same level and none on these fighters have proved otherwise. mayweather and pac man deserve no more mention than the rest of these guys considering that pac man only beat pretty past it versions of barrera and morales and never really had anything between him and marquez in their two fights and please WTF has mayweather done to prove he is a better fighter than de la hoya or mosley lol please don't say he beat the better fighters because he only faced 3 or 4 live opponents in his career and only one of his nutthuggers would say he beat castillo the first time (even though he farely beat a past it de la hoya) and he never fought world class guys at welter. All in all there is about 10 guys on the same kind of level and the ones who are regarded as the worst of this bunch (de la hoya and mosley and maybe lennox lewis) are the only ones who dared to be even greater.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    PBF has been at Welter Weight for 3 years.

    9 months ago, Pac was fighting at Super Feather Weight
     
  11. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Calzaghe is the best fighter of this generation
    Not mayweather nor pacman.

    Simple as.
     
  12. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    It's not that big of a deal as it's made out to be. Roach says that Manny will be fighting at 140 from now on. Having DLH weigh in at 147 instead of 150 like he did earlier this year was Roach's plan all along for a huge advantage coming into the ring. Why couldn't DLH come in at 150 like he did earlier that year? Roach wouldn't of taken the fight if DLH didn't give to a WW limit.

    How bad does Roach want the fight? Or how confident is he in victory? Looking back he wasn't as confident as it was made out to be if he wanted DLH to weigh in even less than he did a few months before. Same would go for wanting Floyd to do a catchweight. Floyd won't be 100% weighing any less than 147.
     
  13. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i am not sure about that at all i still think floyd could make 140 without being to badly weight drained but against a smaller guy he would rather fight at 147 for the size advantage.
     
  14. draw99

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  15. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Only an assumption and it's not in Floyd's best interest to go ahead and see what happens fight night having weighed in at 140. He hasn't had to weigh in at 140 in 3 years, make it 4 by the time next year rolls around.

    He'll have a size advantage either way but at 140 he is running the risk of hurting himself going into the fight. Not worth it.