Mayweather vs. Alvarez: Catchweight of 152 !!

The *****s rally up saying that 152lbs is a fair deal but when Manny fought Cotto at 145lbs (yes, 2lbs!! below the limit) they rallied up saying that Pac was drainning Cotto atsch

*****s always have an excuse for everything :yep

 

2lbs is nothing if Floyd is the one making you lose them but when it was Pac those 2lbs was a whole lot to Cotto who was clearly drained because of those 2lbs!! atsch

 

Hi mate,


It's not quite as simple as that though.


1. We heard what Floyd said about fighting Cotto last year.

2. He holds a title at 154.

3. He said he wanted to defend it.

4. He criticized Manny for making catchweights.

5. Canelo's still going to rehydrate 15-20 pounds.

6. Ellerbe has said it wouldn't matter if Canelo came in at 200 pounds.


Canelo might even rehydrate by a larger amount seen as he's got to lose more weight?

Floyd hasn't made him go to 152, to bring his rehydration weight down.


So taking everything into consideration, he deserves the criticism that he's receiving in my opinion.

 

:good

 

If it's unfair Canelo could have said no.

He thinks the 2 lbs is worth the career high payday.
The man accepting the catchweight has just as much blame as the man wanting it.

 

1. Boxers often state bull****, wether it be because of flawed thinking/hypocricy/getting higher paydays/making your legacy look better.

2.Point taken, but Canelo is fine that it's fought at 152. Also it's not fought at 152 as Canelo rehydrates back 10-20 lbs water anyway.

3.He's defending it, or did I misread something and his 154 lbs title isn't at stake?

4.If he makes himself look relatively better by making Manny look worse Floyd can get higher paydays he's the better fighter. Business and money runs boxing.

5.Then if 2 lbs doesn't matter why criticize?

6.I don't think that was 100% literal.

 

Barely matters at all. Both guys are the same height, but Canelo is fatter and is too lazy to lose his fat, so he is trying to force Floyd to come up. Meanwhile Floyd weighs in at 147 on the night of the fight so he has no business going up to 154 (although he has done it twice before, against arguably superior opponents). All in all I think it is a fair compromise and I'm just happy the fight is happening. It could have used another year of build up, but this is clearly the best fight to be made right now with Floyd and there is no close alternative.

 

1. I know this, but it's understandable why he's getting criticised.

2. I know he does, so why the need for a catchweight?

3. If it's at stake there shouldn't be a catchweight. The catchweight is not going to stop Canelo rehydrating to up to 20 pounds. If the catchweight was put in place to try and prevent him from rehydrating by a huge amount, then everybody would understand the reasoning. But it won't.

4. He's not making himself look better, because he's contradicted himself.

5. Again, why then the need for a catchweight? The only purpose it can serve, is that maybe Canelo will struggle a bit extra in training, and that'll give Floyd an advantage.

6. Of course he wasn't speaking literally. But the point is, Ellerbe is basically saying "We know Canelo is going to rehydrate by a huge amount, but we don't care, it won't make a difference."

But if that's the case, then why the catchweight?

Ellerbe has just contradicted Floyd's demands/actions by claiming that. It's just make them look silly.


It says to me, that Floyd has kicked up a fuss for two reasons.


1. He's got a huge ego and wants to have the last say.

2. He's hoping that Canelo will struggle.


Reynose has said that Schaefer saved the day, because Floyd originally wanted even lower than 152.

 

Floyd CATCHweather.....no...he never fights at Cathweights, he always fights fighters at their most comfortable weight

 

Only on ESB will a Floyd opponent go from being a real threat that Floyd's ducking to low hanging fruit ripe for cherry picking. You haters are pathetic as all **** and a bunch of bitches. Plain and simple.

 

Exactly.....c'mon boys, these are two grown men who can make sound decisions on which direction they take their careers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with catch weight fights if it's between men who are from two different divisions or if one holds a sizable advantage. .....meeting in the middle means to level the playing field.

These men only want to win so no one is going to put themselves in a no-win situation. They take calculated risks as boxers.....from both sides of the ropes. Who they fight....what weight.....different tactics and strategies. They're taking shots to the head for Christ's sake. Who gives a **** about a catch weight of -2 lbs?

 

Out of all this over dramatic bull**** this catch weight title fight has produced, the only thing that I really care about is what you touched on.

The catch weight is the biggest "non" issue that has ever been blown out of proportion in the history of this sport. And the irony is the fans who provided the gas and lit the match were Floyd and his over the top fans.

Not that Floyd never fought at a catch weight before...he has, but this one between May and not Nelo mirrors the one fight that turned the word "catch weight" into the most over used and abused word in boxing.....the Manny vs Cotto fight.

Both were catch weight fights between champions in different divisions. With a single weight class separating the two champions. The smaller man asks for a middle ground because he is moving up to face the bigger man and in both cases they agree on a -2 lbs catch weight where they put their titles on the line.

Floyds' own words was the "match" in what created this stigma that catch weight fights are bad or taboo. The over the top fans were completely ripping Manny for using a catch weight fight to win another world title. ......completely discrediting his utter domination of Miguel chalking up the loss to being drained. atsch

Yet Floyd does the exact same thing, completely contradicts himself and his crazy fanatical supporters find the most interesting ways to ratinalize and embrace the new change. mind boggling.

 

I agree......care to give your opinion on the 145 lbs catch weight title fight between Manny and Miguel a couple years back? I'm guessing you tbought that was absolutely fine as well?

 

Wait a second. ......Manny at 147, like Floyd at 154 only had one fight at that weight before facing both Cotto and Canelo, respectively.

You implied Manny demanded a guy his own size, in his own division to fight at a catch weight. You couldn't have ****ed that up any better kid.

Not only are you wrong, but you are putting youself out there as a desperate Floyd fan who is trying to defend Floyds "honor" by fabricating stories to cast a different light on the ever so clearl contradiction and double standard we are all witnessing.

What's so hard to understand is how you knuckle heads can't simply stop all the bull**** and admit Floyd made fools out of you. :yep. You all know what time it is.....admitting it is embarrassing....but not as embarrassing as the **** you are posting.*

 

Jr Welter Weight= 140 lbs.......Pac

Welter Weight= 147lbs........Shane & Cotto

What's so hard to understand?:huh