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Mayweather vs Bradley: The Real Thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Diamond Eye, Jun 11, 2012.

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Serb Can Active Member Full Member

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Diamond Eye said: ↑

I appreciate that man, but sometimes I do post some straight bull****.

This time I'm being serious though. I'm tired of misguided people saying that Floyd would walk through Bradley like he ain't ****, and knock him out.
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don't we all post some bull**** every now n' then?

I know you said Mayweather would win, but stylistically do you think Bradley would give Floyd more problems then Pacquiao? I know these are all fantasy matchups but **** it, we're here to talk boxing.

Serb Can, Jun 11, 2012

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Skipped to the end and it said 'a very tough time' then I was glad I didn't read it, Ortiz destroyed Peterson for the first 6 rounds and then ran away for no reason, Mayweather destroyed Ortiz, Bradley will never be ready to fight Floyd his swinging wild punches would just make him eat right hand leads all night, stop seekin attention

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Marshmallows =) said: ↑

This is where Bradley got it all wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxVHLuly1sc
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Damn, he said that?

Diamond Eye, Jun 11, 2012

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Now, I'm gonna start this **** out by sayin, most of ya'll don't know **** about boxing.

You got stupid mother ****ers sayin Mayweather is gonna walk Bradley down and KO him....AGAIN.

Just like with Cotto.

In this case, Bradley doesn't have the counterpunching ability that Cotto has, but he has good footwork, and he's hard to hit with more than one punch at a time.

He lacks the impact jab that Cotto does, and his jab is mainly used as a range finder, but it also gives away his offense, which is why he had so much trouble utilizing it against Pac when he was in full retreat mode after feeling Pac's power.

However, with that said, there are some dumbass mother ****ers on this site, as usual, that say he was controlling Pac with his jab. No, he was giving away his offense, and when he came foward with it, Pac already knew what was coming, and typically blocked all of his punches with maybe one or two slippin in as Pac was countering with his own much harder punches.

But this isn't about Pac, it's about Mayweather. If Bradley doesn't commit to his jab against Mayweather, if he decides to "box" him, Mayweather will counter the **** outta him. Bradley would get picked apart from the outside because Mayweather will wait him out, and be very cautious with what he throws.

He would utilize his reach, and Bradley would give his offense away. It wouldn't be very exciting fight, and despite Bradley's lack power or his perceived lack of power, Mayweather would not commit to many combinations.

The reason for this is two fold: as I stated before, Bradley's head movement, and footwork makes it very difficult to land more than one punch at a time. Secondly, when Bradley gets inside, he may be sloppy at times, but he does manage to land some punches of his own.

Mayweather is most vulnerable when he throws. He has a lot of accuracy, but he doesn't have the impact on his punches that Pacquaio does. Additionally, Mayweather's long lean body would get hit by Bradley's quick punches while Mayweather is throwing his punches, even if they land.

Pacquaio who is a much harder puncher was landing hard accurate counterpunches, yet through Bradley's sheer will and determination, along with his ingrained and trained reflexes still managed to hit Pacquaio on occasion with fast if a perhaps wild, punches.

Additionaly, he doesn't let up. You can't let your guard down with this guy because he's a like a pitbull in his attacks.

It is very unlikely that Bradley would utilize an outside fight plan against perhaps the best boxer in the game. If Mayweather had Hearns power, it might be a different story, and Bradley would be forced to fight outside or risk taking severe punishment.

Obviously Pacquaio isn't as devesating a puncher as Hearns, but he's a hell of a puncher and has a great deal of speed and precision. Even with those assets, Bradley still managed to have spurts where he attacked Pacquaio aggressively.

He also kept his wind for 12 rounds and has shown in previous fights that he doesn't fade. He can potentially come out like a new man in the late rounds relative to his opponent.

Against Mayweather who doesn't have Pacquaio's power, he's going to bully him and push him against the ropes. He's going to use aggressive defense, and his head won't be in one place like Cotto's was.

He doesn't have the power that Cotto has, but he's more relentless, and he's physically very strong. Let's put into perspective.

Bradley mauled Peterson, who effectively mauled Khan.

My point is, Pacquaio is deceptively strong, his legs are the source of his power, but even then, to me it looked like Bradley was the stronger man in the ring.

Is low center of gravity will allow him to push Mayweather against the ropes, and his relentless activity won't give Mayweather a break.

Mayweather will have to work his ass off in this fight. Even when Mayweather lands, which he will of course, Bradley won't hesitate. If Pacquaio can't stop this man in his tracks, with his extremelly accurate, precision power counterpunching, Mayweather won't be able to either.

He just doesn't have the type of power that I can see making Bradley, who has exhibited an excellent chin, and some of the best cardio in the sport, stop attacking.

Don't get it twisted. Bradley will attack all night. The majority of his punches will get blocked, or catch air, but he will land on occassion, even if they don't have the effect of Mayweather's, which they won't, and some judges may favor his aggression over Mayweather's counterpunching.

When you got a guy on you aggressively mauling you against the ropes and keeping you off balance, like Bradley does, it makes it very difficult for you to effectively get your shots in with anything behind them.

This guy is more physical than Ricky Hatton and he moves. He doesn't stay in one place. He doesn't look to rest when he gets inside. He attacks.

Floyd is getting older. A young guy with this type of pace and good aggressive defense, who doesn't fade is going to give Mayweather problems.

Honestly, all indications point to this being Mayweather's hardest fight.

See, styles make fights. And while Bradley doesn't have the impact jab that Cotto does, he will do more effective work on the inside because of his positioning and his movement.

And while his punches aren't as hard as Cotto's, they maintain their power throughout the duration of the bout due to Bradley's excellent physical conditioning.

The best way for Mayweather to win this fight obviously is to keep the fight in the center of the ring, and box Bradley.

But this is much harder than it looks. This is not a small weak guy that will get demolished. He proved that against Pacquaio.

Mayweather would really have to hit this guy hard to gain his respect and do his best to put this guy in boxing mode, so he can dictate the rhythmm.

And Mayweather will have some success with this, but I imagine the majority of the fight will be ugly, and against the ropes.

This will be one of those fights that has potential for people to say it went both ways.

Again with Bradley's opponent landing the more effective shots, but Bradley's workrate and activity are going to be much higher than his opponents.

And unlike Pacquaio, Mayweather doesn't have the power to keep him off as much as Pacquaio did.

Not only that, there are still questions about Mayweather's legs. There are two scenarios, he either chooses to go to the ropes or his opponents force them there.

I think it's a combination because he feels comfortable. Well this is a fight where him being against the ropes could be his downfall.

For the record, I think Mayweather would win. But if you got the same dumbass judges from this fight, they are going to favor Bradley's mostly ineffective aggression.

In summation:

Bradley's aggressive defense and his difficulty to hit cleanly with more than one punch at a time combined with his conditioning, relentlessness, and ability to absorb punishment, will give the 10 years older Mayweather who's not a big puncher, but very accurate, a very tough time.
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Why should Floyd keep fighting Pac`s leftovers ?

sweetray, Jun 11, 2012

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Serb Can said: ↑

don't we all post some bull**** every now n' then?

I know you said Mayweather would win, but stylistically do you think Bradley would give Floyd more problems then Pacquiao? I know these are all fantasy matchups but **** it, we're here to talk boxing.
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Honestly, I'd really have to think about that one. I don't know. I will say, that I'd rather see Pacquaio vs Floyd than Bradley vs Floyd.

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Marshmallows =) said: ↑

This is where Bradley got it all wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxVHLuly1sc
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good find, thanx troll

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MAIN said: ↑

dam u wasted time typing all that and aint no one goin bother reading that bs

lil floyd whoops on timmy just like manny

he's just not in the same class as those two
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You wasted your time writing this crap. Bradley is nothing, he barely kept up with Pacquiao who has had a planned career since the oscar fight. Get over it.

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Bradley outboxed the hell out of Manny.

I don't see him trying to make a Floyd fight a boxing match.

SweetHome_Bama, Jun 11, 2012

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You wasted your time writing this crap. Bradley is nothing, he barely kept up with Pacquiao who has had a planned career since the oscar fight. Get over it.
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You're a waste of time.

If you don't have any knowledge, don't post on my thread.

You're just trollin.

Diamond Eye, Jun 11, 2012

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Why would Mayweather fight Bradley, other than that its a easy fight? He gains nothing by beating him.

tito44, Jun 11, 2012

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Diamond Eye said: ↑

Damn, he said that?
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Yup he said this... Bradley thinks Manny will beat Floyd

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxVHLuly1sc[/ame]

But in all fairness I can't see Pacquiao matching up with Floyd. Fact

Especially when I compared what Floyd did to Cotto. Masterful. Fact

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Marshmallows =) said: ↑

Yup he said this... Bradley thinks Manny will beat Floyd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxVHLuly1sc

But in all fairness I can't see Pacquiao matching up with Floyd. Fact

Especially when I compared what Floyd did to Cotto. Masterful. Fact
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the one comment under the video clarifies this. it's selectively muted. he says something like "mayweather could be him, but mayweather'll never stop him"

(again, it's something to that effect)

church11, Jun 11, 2012

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Why would Mayweather fight Bradley, other than that its a easy fight? He gains nothing by beating him.
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he gains money

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