Well Canelo was in his physical prime and Floyd wasn't. I'm not even sure Canelo has improved, he just moved to a better weight class for himself. Floyd was always gonna school him at that weight. Canelo was by no means green, a man retiring with his age 23 record would be considered grizzled.
Why was Spence not as his best? If you scored DLH 9-3 for Floyd we can all read between the lines...and see your bias. Margarito has like 1 good win in his career and his career after Mosley shows he was very, very likely cheating. Mosley didn't fight loaded hand wraps Margarito. He fought actual Margarito who simply isnt/wasnt a good fighter. Canelo being 7-0 fighting shot to sh!t Mosley or Matthew Hatton means nothing. Take a poll and youll find almost every fan (besides you) believes Canelo was far from his prime when he fought Floyd. If youre going to mention the win over Castillo then also mention the loss/draw. And I already said Floyds resume, in terms of depth, is better than Crawfords. However, Crawford's single win over Spence is better than any single win Floyd had. Also, like it or not (and you dont because youre one of these PBC nutboys), if Crawford beata Canelo or Jermell and becomes 3 weight undisputed/lineal champion his career > Floyds. Floyd was never able to get undisputed in a single weight class and Terrence has done it beating Spence (who sonned Floyd) and Jermell or Canelo. Deal with it.
Her fought Lara AFTER Floyd. And like w/ Trout, barely separated himself from him. Beat? Sure. But both were pretty damn close. And yes, Trout was very good. But if we're being honest, didn't do much with his career. Can't live off a single good win in Cotto forever. Green might be a stretch, but the difference in world championship bouts between Floyd and Canelo was night and day. Was more a highly experienced vet vs. a young up and comer. And call me crazy, but # of world title fights is highly diluted now. There's easily 4-5 guys can say they are a champ of a single division. Has been that way for too long. And over half of those 43 professional fights were against hardly top competition.
Most of Canelo's comp at that time was local Mexican. He was young, and ENTERING his prime, but at 23, physical prime is often considered to come a few years later.
I scored it 8-4 it wasn't that close of a fight, and you suggesting it could be a draw is "reading between the lines to see your bias" Actually 3 wins Margarito beat Martinez, Clottey, Cotto, it was Mosley's best performance in years vs Margarito was it not ? Canelo also beat Lara and Trout who were the best Jr Middleweights at that time, and Canelo was ranked the number 1 Jr Middleweight when Mayweather fought him. Well Mayweather didn't lose to Castillo so why would i create a fantasy scenario ? it was a close/controversial fight that could've gone either way and Mayweather won the rematch comfortably. Spence went through a horrific car crash and had only fought 4 times in 4 years, beating Pacquiao an ATG who was P4P number 3 is a better win. I don't even like Mayweather actually not a fan at all although i appreciate his boxing skills, if Crawford beat Charlo that wouldn't be anywhere near enough to topple Mayweather who has many more quality wins. A win over Charlo and Canelo ? then he would be in the argument yes but the chances of Crawford beating Canelo at Super Middleweight are slim and is a fantasy.
I thought he fought Lara before Mayweather my mistake but still he fought Lara less than a year after Mayweather. Mayweather would have a big difference in championship fights against most opponents though to be fair, i think we can all agree that Canelo wasn't at his peak vs Mayweather. But people are making out he was some green prospect that's clearly not the case, he was already an established fighter and ranked the number 1 Jr Middleweight. So i would say an aging Mayweather beat a good version of Canelo who was still entering his prime but hadn't reached his peak yet.
There plenty of fighters that are now considered ATG with lower KO percentages than Mayweather. Also, not sure if you ever fought before and I'm not here to defend the featherfisted but getting totally outclassed for 12 rounds is absolutely humiliating. Not being able to land anything while being countered solidly all night long sucks big time.
Bivol made him look more hopeless a decade later. Judges tried to steal that fight for Canelo but it was too wide. Floyd was smart to pick a green Canelo and weight drain him. Canelo never made that mistake again and the rest is history.
i did find it odd / off that “Mr remove all doubt” Floyd never rematched Oscar - & even stranger that Oscar didn’t have a rematch clause.
Floyd was a 147 pound fighter but you wanted him to wait until he was well in his 40s to challenge a 168 pound Canelo? And You're bragging that a 175 Canelo would stop a 147 pound Mayweather, good one. Given the way Bivol dominated Canelo I'd still give Mayweather a good chance.
How do you think a rematch would have gone? I think Canelo would have been a lot more aggressive and made it more interesting. He was physically prime for sure, but mentally still had room to grow.