Mayweather vs Canelo: Rehydration Clause

Either fight at his comfortable weight or don't fight at all.

 

Pacquiao vacated the belt after his win against Margarito. Koncz stated that the weight was too big for him and that Margarito inflicted damage on Pacquiao - so they said he would never fight above 147. The whole rehydration clause came from Arum - we know Arum is full of it and he'll protect his investment at all costs - especially in a fight against someone who didn't offer much economically.

I give Mayweather a pass on Martinez too - Martinez is a middleweight, he has no business challenging Mayweather and Pacquiao, one is a natural welterweight who walks around at 150 and can fight at 154 at a stretch, and the other is a small welterweight who should probably be fighting at 135-140 and certainly has no business fighting anyone above 147.

So let's drop the Martinez rubbish, that guy has issues in his own weight class

 

Surely it isn't that bleak is it? :verysad Yeah, I was pretty pissed at the mere idea Floyd would try and pull this nonsense and I suspect Larryx has fled the forum until this **** gets sorted. I didn't really have time to notice what the other Floyd fans were saying as I was too occupied ripping it. Funny thing is, I've never really harped on or been wildly critical of Pacquiao's catchweights; it's that I've been chatting all this **** about how Floyd is going to take him straight up at 154 just like that, no problem, 'EZ work' with full confidence behind him. Well, if this is true I don't take too well to getting burned like that and won't defend a CW. 147 is laughable. A rehydration clause is kind of nasty too, but I want the fight so much that I guess I'd settle.

 

The Mayweather's remaining silent over an allegation doesn't make it any more or less true, dawg.

And, you're just further digging yourself into your hole. Mayweather's comments on the 150 with Martinez was his reaction when asked by reporters about an offer a couple of days earlier from Martinez' own promoter, that Martinez would take the Mayweather fight at/as low as 150, AND for a 80:20 split in favor of Mayweather. I should believe the recording of that offer is still on YouTube. It was also part of several threads at the time. Now, you know one or two of the places in which you should first look?

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Nice post mate (Hands of Iron) - everyone is making way too much of a big deal about Canelo's fight night weight. To be honest, it's a great excuse for idiot Floyd fans to justify Floyd not taking the fight (if that's what happens)

Canelo weighed 172 against Trout - that's because TRout comes in at that weight. The reality is this was Canelo's biggest fight night weight by far because of how big Trout is. Against Lopez Canelo weighed 166 on fight night, against Mosley he weighed 167.

I'm not believing Floyd weighed 150 on fight night against Cotto, that's garbage and it's why Floyd didn't step on the scales. He looked pretty big so I'm sure he rehydrated to at least 154-155...

So I have no problem with a rehydration clause of 165 because Canelo should make that with no issues - as I say, 172 is VERY big for Canelo - telling him to come in at anything below 154 contradicts everything FLoyd has claimed in the past and everything a lot of fans have said about Pacquiao (though I think Floyd's actions against Marquez does that job already)

 

Honestly, if such a fuss wasn't made about catchweights -- you know, just erase the past three years of giving Pac **** for it -- I really wouldn't mind if Floyd fought Canelo at 150 or something. They're from two different weights, after all. And all a catchweight is doing is bridging the gap. In reality, there's nothing wrong with it. But Floyd and some of his fans (I say some, but it's actually a very large percentage) have made catchweights such an unforgiveable sin, that they've left themselves in no position to even demand one. It's highly hypocritical.

 

Me myself, I can't condone any call, true or false, for Canelo to fight at 147. He's simply too massive for that.

However, you ascribing 154-155 to Floyd is just your conjecture, no more, no less. You have the liberty to see whatever you want to see from an image. It is more plausible that, since Canelo had weighed in before at 172, as you yourself stated - and easily at that weight I should add, then he can easily come in at 175 or even higher against Floyd, because logic dictates he would want to maximize his arguably only advantage against Mayweather. That sort of weight may end up working against him in the real world, though.

I have a hunch the two sides will eventually settle for a hydration clause of 164, which won't be a bad deal, imo.

But Canelo's manager has again been getting louder about they fighting Cotto admittedly on Mayweather's undercard on September 14. So who knows whether they'll be prepared to truly focus on the rigors of negotiations with camp Mayweather?

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Re. Floyd's weight, yes it's conjecture definitely, I don't pretend otherwise. But he doesn't step on the scales and we're to believe he came in at the same weight as the weigh-in? But yes, of course it's conjecture as I don't know.

For Canelo to rehydrate over 20lb is highly unlikely, but yes it's possible. Which is why I said in previous post that given that 166/167 is a fight night weight Canelo has come in at against smaller guys (I guess to not sacrifice speed) then I have no problem with a rehydration clause of around 165. In that instance Mayweather would maybe give away 12lb - which is nothing to complain about

 

165 will still be 15 lbs on Mayweather, but that's still ok. Personally, I'll advocate 162, which is about midway between 154 and 172.
But, like I previously stated, who's even sure team Alvarez is actually focused on negotiating a Mayweather deal, instead of their recent indication that it may end up being a Canelo-Cotto undercard to Mayweather's bout on September 14th?

P34c3

 

Yeah, you know what, I changed my mind. A rehydration clause would've actually been worse. :deal

 

Hey look at all the *****'s

I wonder what happen to the time when Harry Greb fought Jack Johnson?

Poor Floyd.