Mayweather vs Forrest at 154: Forrest wins.

Mayweather's defensive style will play right into the hands of Forrest who is fast, rangy, and fights out of a defensive counterpunching position.

In order to beat Forrest, you have to bring the fight right at him like a pitbull, something that Mosley failed to do in the first two fights which is why he lost.

If you lay back on the ropes or you play defense the entire time, the bigger man, will eventually break you down and take your speed away as you'll find that it's almost impossible to counterpunch them.

This is especially true when you got a guy like Forrest who is a skilled boxer.

Mayweather will find out how difficult it is to land cleanly on Forrest, get cornered and either get knocked out or be forced to literaly run the entire fight, while delivering the occasional but inneffective counter punching that will likely be negated by Forrest's reach, stance, and speed.

If Mayweather wants to step back in the ring and he can't find any challenges worthy for him at 147 which his most ardent fans would have you believe, he could step in with Forrest and show if he really is still the same fighter that stepped in with Corrales that was capable of turning on the offense when necessary or he's a relatively one dimensional defensive fighter that will take absolutely no risks.

To beat Forrest, he'll have to throw combinations and he'll have to take risks. If he lays back on the ropes, it's very likely that he's going to get knocked out.

On the other hand, I think Mosley in his recent fights has shown more versatility than Mayweather, although this does have a lot to do with his opposition, as he brought the fight right to Margarito ala Hopkins vs Pavlik.

I think Mosley will use this same tactic in a fight against Forrest if there were to be a third fight and has a very strong chance to beat a guy that pretty much nobody gives him a chance against.

Since, it's is very unlikely that Mayweather will come out of retirment, the Forrest option is on the table for Mosley, and personally if it gets like that, I think he should take it.

Mosley can beat Forrest, but I'm not so sure about Mayweather.

 

Alright, explain to me how Mayweather would win using his ring smarts, and I'm assuming by ring smarts, you mean laying back and counterpunching.

Let me ask you this, you ever tried counterpunching in the ring yourself against a bigger counterpuncher that has almost as much or just as much speed?

It isn't easy, in fact before you know it, you'll find yourself on your bike and they'll be negating your punches with their reach and they'll easily opt to chase you around the ring while rarely throwing punches as they are in a defensive position, just like you, waiting for you to throw or get trapped on the ropes.

Just look at Mayweather Sr vs Leonard. Mayweather ran into the same problem. Mayweather tried to play counter puncher with a bigger counterpuncher than him and got knocked out because of it.

On the other hand, Leonard knew in his fight against Hearns that he couldn't just simply counterpunch hearns to victory, and he brought the fight to HEARNS, and that's why he won.

Sometimes you GOT to bring the fight to your opponent, and YES that's part of boxing. Can Mayweather bring the fight like that to Forrest?

You tell me or at least tell me how you see it going down before you call me a hater.

 

And by the way, what kind of a bull**** response is that?

HATER.......

Man that **** is juvenile. I'm just putting up a scenario where I think Mayweather could lose.

I don't give into the notion that he's unbeatable. I mean, so you're telling me that in the history of the sport, Mayweather is the only guy that can't be beat?

Out of what? 200 years of boxing or some ****?

Damn......

 

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Yeah, but Mayorga had the dimension that counted. He fought Forrest like a pitbull. He didn't just lay back and counterpunch or he would have been obliterated.

And I don't think Forrest is completely shot. He still has enough to at least win a decision against Mayweather at 154.

Forget prime.

I mean, put it into perspective. How did Mayweather do against De La Hoya? Honestly, I didn't think it was too impressive and that was Mayweather's only appearence at 154.

Imagine if that the Vernon Forrest of today.

 

I don't expect him to fight Forrest. I'm just pointing out that he would lose.

 

I know that Forrest of today isn't the same guy that beat Mosley, but you gotta think that Forrest wouldn't have to expend that much energy in the ring as I'm almost positive that Floyd wouldn't engage him with anymore than one or two punches.

Forrest would be able to follow Floyd around, throw the occasionaly jab, while remaining in a defensive position, and make Floyd throw in order to keep Forrest off of him.

The first part of the fight would likely consist of Floyd using the entire ring, probably scoring occasionaly with jabs, but most of them being blocked and with Forrest following Floyd around the ring, but rarely throwing punches, yet still imposing his size and forcing Mayweather to try and gain his respect.

Over time, Mayweather would begin to tire, would find that he's having little to no luck scoring against Forrest, and find himself running with an increasingly aggressive opponent salivating at the chance of Floyd being against the ropes.

And as Floyd's legs go, his fight plan starts to go out the window as he is forced to sometimes trade with Forrest or put up earmuffs to prevent Forrest from scoring.

Floyd could fight out of a defensive position, but Floyd will have a HELL of a time counterpunching Forrest and Forrest isn't a face first pressure fighter.

He's going to use his range and positioning even when he has Floyd against the ropes. If Floyd doesn't jump on Forrest who's slower when the opportunity arrises, throwing combination punches, Floyd's speed will be negated and he'll find himself in a position where the fight is pretty much unwinnable.