Mayweather vs Guerrero: Deal is Close to being Done

I've gotta respectfully disagree with you on that one, Dave. I don’t believe you can duck a man that’s not in your division, i know Floyd's fought at 154, but against career welterweights and he's clearly not the same up there. it's not his divison. Saying Floyd is 'ducking' Martinez is like saying Marvin Hagler ducked Michael Spinks. Martinez is a damn middlweight who walks around at close to 180lbs. I don't think he could ever make light middlweight again without seriously hindering himself. I don't think he's been able to make it for a couple of years, because of the muscle mass he's put on since the Pavlik fight.

It'd be cool of Floyd fought Alvarez, but i don't think we could classify that as a duck either, if he didn't fight him.

 

What makes you so sure Manny is fighting Rios, my man? Damn it, PK. Do you know something i don't and are hanging out on me? lol

I don't really know if Pacquiao will fight again, if he does i think it'll be another Marquez fight.

IMHO. Nobody should be calling for either Floyd or Manny to fight Martinez or even to a lesser extent Alvarez. How could anybody demand that, especially a Martinez fight.

People stopped calling for it a while ago, but there WAS a time when people suggested Manny fight Martinez, i don't think many people are calling for either to fight Martinez now though. People have realised it's just not that viable.

The reason Floyd is in a lose/lose situation is partly to do with himself and his past actions. He failed to make the biggest win/win fight in his career, he's also such a brillient fighter that people just wanna see him in some competitive fights. Like i said i don't think we can criticise him if he fights Guerrero, because there's not much out there and Guerrero will come to rumble.

 

Read a article that Manny Pac ill be fighting Brandon Rios on May 4th.

 

Dont agree that Martinez walks around anything close to 180.

Regardless of Martinez, Mayweather has twice foguth at 154 and in his last fight looked much bigger and more comfortable at the weight than we have ever seen.

He has fought at 147 for a whopping 7 years now and at this stage the refusal to step up for the big tests smacks of his usual avoidance tactics.

 

I think i was maybe even being conservative with my estimate. Martinez might walk around close to 185lbs or higher. Martinez weighs 176 pounds 30 days out from some of his fights. That should tell you that he is an athletic 180lbs plus man. Sergio Martinez is two divisions up from where Floyd is now. Martinez is so big and strong he was seriously considering fighting Lucian Bute at 168lbs.

Like i said, I don’t remember anybody ever stating that Marvin Hagler needed to challenge himself and fight Michael Spinks. Or Ray Robinson had to fight Ezzard Charles. I'm not suggesting Floyd can’t win. hey, if he took the challenge then i'm all for it. But no fighter should be held to a standard where they are forced to fight a fighter two divisions higher especially when they have already moved up so many divisions.

It doesn't matter how long Floyd's been at welterweight, that's irrelevent. Martinez is just too big. We don't know how 'comfortable' he was at the weight, because he was fighting a career welterweight in Cotto, who we've seen has no business up there himself.

I'm Floyd's biggest critic when it comes to the fighters he's chosen to sidestep, but to say he's avoiding the middleweight champion of the world, when he was at his best at 130lbs is not being fair on him.

 

Martinez is overated.

 

Amazing insight.

 

Agreed. Doesn't bode well for his legacy.

 

I agree with the general sentiment of floyd cherrypicking but it doesn't equal ducking or being scared.

Bar Pac, Floyd's pretty much taken every fight that could make him $. This is the reason he always fights on mexican holidays and tries to fight hispanics, so he can appeal to mass market. He fought a prime, undefeated Hatton, a p4p number 3 (after a long lay off in Marquez, the lineal rejuvenated LMW champ in Cotto.

There are bigger tests he could have taken but whether you like it or not (i don't), it's about risk/reward.

Guerrero provides a decent payday at no risk. Bradley provides no payday at no risk...and so on.

 

What makes you say that, mate? If you're ganna make such a claim then at least put some clothes on your argument.