I didnt call Hatton chinny, but he didnt have a cast iron chin either. I would call it solid. Also Hatton had no jab what so ever, where as La Motta had a solid jab which is the main component that you need to beat Floyd.
if you watch hatton pre floyd you would say he had a cast iron jaw,floyd ruined him,well and the bad life style and having to dehydrate his body so much between fights.tszyu was a massive puncher,watch how many flush punches he took off him and walked straight thru them. as for la mottas jab,it was hardly snappy come on,do you see him winning a battle of jabs with mayweather ?
Collazo ruined him my friend not Floyd. Broke his nose , almost stopped him and kept him out of the ring for a year at the age of 26? Never the same after that , and Collazo was considered an accurate boxer nothing more.
i think you can argue collazo did him some damage,i think it was more a case hatton exhausted himself,went for the kill after putting him down early then tired himself out throwing countles wild missing punches,he was knackered at the end of that fight,which is something you didnt see with hatton at that age,his work rate and stamina where excellent
Why do people act like LaMotta didn't have a problem with boxers? He did, and Robinson wasn't the only guy he lost to. LaMotta was an under-sized middleweight by today's standards at 5'8" and fight day weigh-ins at 160 pounds. If Jimmy Reeves can outbox LaMotta, I think it is fair to say that Mayweather would be able to also. Mayweather has beat bigger guys than LaMotta. People who are turning LaMotta into King Kong clearly don't know a thing. Lamotta was a middleweight in the era of "fight day weigh-ins." LaMotta would not be a middleweight in modern boxing. He would fight at 154 in all likelihood. Maybe even 147 early in his career. But let's be clear, comparing an older generation fighter to a newer one is stupid. Boxing has evolved, some work out techniques have improved, and overall knowledge about the human body with better nutrition and supplements is far better today.
i thought the basis of size in boxing is mass/weight. so what has 5'8" height has got to do with being undersized or not? pedjr is 5'8" or 5'9". is he oversized as ww?
I shouldn't even respond to you, because you're a mindless idiot troll, but I will. Fight day weigh-ins. LaMotta would not be a middleweight in modern boxing. But I suspect you already knew this and are just trolling like the idiot you are. Jimmy Reeves.... nuff said. That name alone should end the thread.
SPOT ON With regards to comparing fighters i agree it is a little daft but the point of it was i compared floyd to srr in a head to head match up and it basically got laughed at as a none debate and srr is the best ever couldnt lose etc because he'd beaten the likes of la motta.the thing is i dont see anyone on srr's record ww or middleweight who would have beaten floyd,srr no question is the greater fighter but when comparing fighters h2h fighters from the past are viewed with rose tinted specs imo
IDIOT. you clearly pointed out, la motta is undersized bec he is only 5'8". this is *****s problem they have many excuses, agenda to push, they forget their previous, excuses. you just owned yourself, dummy.
I didn't say "because." You really should learn to read. I also added the fact that was the era of fight night weigh-ins. Honestly, is your life really this pathetic? Grasping at straws to try to pick some random fight on the Internet when you know damn well I am right. Seriously dude, you're in need of psychological help. And once again: Jimmy Reeves....... /end thread
idiot. a factor is a factor. doesnt matter if it only one or along with the others. if doesnt matter, then it doesnt period. then no point metioning he is only 5'8". but, obviously, it does. like arm reach, but you wont take that because pedjr has the advantage against most of his opponents and you dont want to admit to it. like i said, *****s will push an agenda when it suits them (c/w, left-overs, damaged-goods), and now height and totally forget the had different take on them on previous situations. typical *****.:hi:
Sort of what I was thinking. De La Hoya gave Floyd a good fight by using pressure but Jake can't? I rate Floyd but come on!
You are honestly not very intelligent. Not only do you not make any coherent point, but your grammar is horrid. Enjoy my ignore list, it was a long time overdue anyways. I've yet to see you talk like a human being once. Like I said, it's obvious you have problems in your personal life and so you come to an Internet forum to be somebody else. Only somebody with serious personal life problems would bother to create multiple accounts to troll a boxing forum.
Lamotta is the most overrated MW of all time. 1 controversial decision over Robinson when SRR weighed 144lbs, losing and going to numerous SDs against a 150lb Zivic, lost against Marshall who said he wasn't as good as his Murderer's Row opponents, has a controversial decision over 150lb green Lytell, which was booed. Against genuine MWs Cerdan he injured with a foul, Villemain beat him once and was robbed in their other fight, Dauthuille beat him once and was beating him until Lamotta pulled out a come from behind stoppage in the final round. Holman Williams looks like a top win but the decision was booed and Holman at 34 with a 177 fights was a little past his best. Mayweather at around 150lbs has to be the betting favourite given smaller men like Zivic/Lytell success against Lamotta, nevermind Robinson's and everyone else who outboxed him. Well yes but Alvarez and probably DLH would have weighed more than Lamotta in the ring. Cotto probably weighed around the same weight.