Mayweather Vs Naz: @ 130 in 1998?

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Who wins and why?

    Mayweather would have been WBC Superfeather champion and 17-0 (13 KO's)

    Hamed would have been 29-0 (27 KO's) and the IBF/WBO champion......

    :huhTough call.
     
  2. brown bomber

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    Mayweather circa 1998

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  3. punk

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    I dont think its tough. Hamed would not be landing on Mayweather heavily so it would be going the 12, and i think Floyd would be doing the better and more flashy work to win a UD.
     
  4. brown bomber

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    Hamed the same year

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  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Watching the Hamed video illustrates the sharp decline of Hamed even at this point. Watching this performance makes me thing that Hamed would have given Mayweather a dangerous and stern test but been outscored quite clearly. The Naz who beat Robinson against the Mayweather who beat Manfreddy? Wow!!! 50-50 I honestly can't seperate them.
     
  6. chesh

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    It was about that time that a fight between the two at a catchweight of 128 was mooted. That time was the brief window of opportunity for the two young undefeated stars to meet in the ring. Mayweather soon moved up and Naz went on to unify the 126 division (although Vasquez had been stripped of his WBA belt shortly before their fight).

    To answer your question: at 130, Mayweather by clear UD (116-112, 116-112, 117-111); at 128, it's what the Americans call a pick 'em. I think even the 2lbs drop in weight for Floyd (a big super-feather) may just have given Naz that bit of an edge. Hamed's reflexes were amazing at the time, as were Mayweather's. It would have been great.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    If Naz id land on Floyd it would be over.

    But I think Naz would get widely outpointed. Although Floyd was more aggressive at that stage, he would be more prone to getting hit by Naz.

    But not enough. Floyd 117-111.
     
  8. punk

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    I agree with that. But that is pretty much a peak Hamed who in my opinion would have gave allsorts of trouble to the greats at his weight level in any era!
     
  9. El Cepillo

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    I wouldn't rule Hamed out, simply because he's not the type of fighter you could ever say 'never' with, but I would strongly favour a Mayweather UD.

    Although...:huh .... I don't know. Naz's counter punching skills are underrated.... I'll have to have a think about this.

    Boring fight, it would have been by the way. Each waiting for the other to initiate.
     
  10. Davro

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    I agree with your logic, but I think Floyd would have pissed all over Hamed.

    Too sharp and quick - Naz never fought no-one like him.

    Floyd would have probably KOd him.
     
  11. brown bomber

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    I think by 1998 Hameds reflexes had dulled and therefore even at 128, by 1998 i'd give him a very tiny chance.
     
  12. D-MAC

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    Mayweather I suspect would be just too much for Naz.

    Fights of the more pick-em variety would be Naz v Acelino Freitas or Naz v Diego Corrales, both of whom were operating at SFW while Naz was still active.....as far as I can recollect anyway.
     
  13. brown bomber

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    1998- or 95?
     
  14. brown bomber

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    Mac I would have picked both those fighters over Hamed for exactly the same reasons I picked Gatti. Too big, too strong and too talented. :good

    Crazy logic but I think he would be more competitive with Mayweather then either. Shame these matches were never made. Damn you Warren.
     
  15. D-MAC

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    I think Naz would have been a bit of a nightmare for the flat footed Freitas to be honest; Freitas of course learned to get on his toes and box a bit, but you can't have the best of both worlds. Its either the earlier basic brawling wrecking ball Freitas or the later more cautious boxer-puncher style Freitas. I think Hamed gives each version trouble, for different reasons.

    I see your point with Corrales; the guy had freakish physical advantages over his opponents at SFW nevermind a smallish opponent coming up from FW, namely the height and the reach. But he repeatedly negated these to a large extent by his constant need to get on the inside and infight. And even though I'm not usually one to use the A,B,C argument, it has to be said that Mayweather absolutely murdered him; what was it? 5 kd's! I feel that a guy like Hamed, with his reflexes and speed, would cause Chico all kinds of problems.


    Saying that I wouldn't want to predict the outcome of either fight, because as you said the physical side of things comes into play here. These are two big SFW's. There's a natural strength argument here with Corrales and Freitas, as well as one with Hamed regarding the question of whether or not he would carry his punch up with him.