Mayweather vs. Pacquiao - Styles

Gander Tasco · May 7, 2010

Fedor Em said: ↑

I completely disagree with this. His jab is very good. Borderline great.
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He had an effective jab at lightweight. He doesn't use it anymore.

Gander Tasco · May 7, 2010

nipplefloss said: ↑

I think you're an alright poster most of the time, but this is some bull****.

He has a fine jab, when he chooses to use it. Mayweather outlanded DLH with his jab in their fight, and DLH has a find jab. He also popped Mosley's head back quite a few times with it. He simply doesn't rely on it too much against lesser fighters because he doesn't need to.

His left hook and right straight are textbook as well and he can throw multiple variations of each. He's a fine body puncher, and he throws combinations just fine. His style has changed a lot, but do you really think he just forgot how to throw combinations since his days at lower weigh classes? He doesn't do it because he doesn't need to. He picks his spots and throws at them. Combination punching isn't like Tekken where you're going for a 7 hit combo. You do it to create openings. If you can create openings without it then the tradeoffs of increased anerobic exertion, less precise punch placement, and potential for being countered aren't really worthwhile. At least not for Floyd.

Other than the fact that I rarely see him throw uppercuts and he leaves himself open at times to bait his opponents there is very little that he does that isn't fundamentally sound boxing. You're the one who is getting dazzled by the speed and agility if you don't notice that.
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Floyd at lightweight was pretty exceptional in every area. He was never much of a combination puncher though. I can't remember the last time he put 3 punches together.

These days he seems to have moved away from being a slick boxer to a potshot artist, like a past-prime Roy Jones. He's fallen in love with his own speed and ability to hit guys without setting up punches with the jab. That's going to bite him in the ass one day.

He' still got immense speed and agility though, and most guys simply can't keep up with him. But we saw in 2 rounds what kind of problems a younger, faster Shane Mosley would have given Floyd.

PIPO23 · May 7, 2010

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sdsfinest22 · May 7, 2010

Gander Tasco said: ↑

Unfortunately these guys have limited knowledge of boxing. Mayweather does a lot of things that trainers would tell you to never do. He gets away with it because of his speed and agility.

As a boxer, he's pretty overrated. He doesn't have a jab, can't throw combinations. He relies on 2 or 3 punches and spams them throughout fights - lead lefts hooks, lead right, jab to the body. Again, it's his speed and agility that makes him look so good.

As far as textbook punching goes, Marquez is better - that doesn't mean he's a better fighter though.
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LMFAO....OK..U WILL FIND THAT MOST TRAINERS/MEDIA/CASUAL/HARDCORE BOXING FANS WILL NOT AGREE WITH YOU..UR ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION BUT U HAVE ALMOST NOTHING TO BACK U WHEN U SAY "JMM IS A better technical puncher than floyd":huh

YOUR ALSO GOING TO LOSE ALOT OF CREDIBILTY IN YOUR POSTS WITH STATEMENTS LIKE THAT AS WELL...:deal

sdsfinest22 · May 7, 2010

gander tasco said: ↑

unfortunately these guys have limited knowledge of boxing. Mayweather does a lot of things that trainers would tell you to never do. He gets away with it because of his speed and agility.

As a boxer, he's pretty overrated. He doesn't have a jab, can't throw combinations. He relies on 2 or 3 punches and spams them throughout fights - lead lefts hooks, lead right, jab to the body. Again, it's his speed and agility that makes him look so good.

As far as textbook punching goes, marquez is better - that doesn't mean he's a better fighter though.
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im not saying it as a fan of floyd..im tellin u floyd is better technically than both jmm and pac..

U really dont know ur sh1t do u..i mean i watch football and im not gonna tell u that drew brees has better mechanics than peyton manning but he is damn good and beat peyton in the sb...same for pac-mayweather...just cuz u like manny dont mean his skills are better....u really dont know much about the sport (from a "technical" standpoint) do u..i mean just the fact that u think an argument could be made that jmm is a better puncher techniclly tells me u dont know to much..ur very ignorant when it comes to technical boxing gander..

Leon · May 7, 2010

cause pacquiao has the best jab ever rofl

Pro · May 7, 2010

Jack said: ↑

It's a myth that Mayweather is great at ad******g, he just starts slow. He doesn't really figure his opponents out, he just chooses to fight differently for the early rounds.

I actually think this will cost him against Pacquiao, because Pacquiao is very capable of stealing rounds, given his flashy, high output style and huge fanbase which affects judges. All he needs to do, is stay busy and he could easily win the first three/four rounds, just because Mayweather is happy to concede them.

If he does, that's a dangerous predicament for Mayweather.

The idea that Pacauiao can only win by stoppage is nonsense. He could end up outboxing Mayweather, because of styles. Mayweather has never looked great against a southpaw and has been advised to avoid them - He's gonna be against a great southpaw.
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Mayweather can't adjust....wow!

sdsfinest22 · May 7, 2010

gander tasco said: ↑

floyd at lightweight was pretty exceptional in every area. he was never much of a combination puncher though. I can't remember the last time he put 3 punches together.

These days he seems to have moved away from being a slick boxer to a potshot artist, like a past-prime roy jones. He's fallen in love with his own speed and ability to hit guys without setting up punches with the jab. That's going to bite him in the ass one day.

He' still got immense speed and agility though, and most guys simply can't keep up with him. But we saw in 2 rounds what kind of problems a younger, faster shane mosley would have given floyd.
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see ndou and sosa..he put togeather combinations in both fights..especially with ndou who was very dangerous at the time

Jack · May 7, 2010

Pro said: ↑

Mayweather can't adjust....wow!
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I don't think that at all. I just don't think, recently, he's proved that. People are saying he adjusted against Mosleybut I think he just started slow, as he often does. It's like Abraham -He doesn't adjust either, it's just his style to start slow and up his work rate after 4.

PBFred · May 7, 2010

Jack said: ↑

I don't think that at all. I just don't think, recently, he's proved that. People are saying he adjusted against Mosleybut I think he just started slow, as he often does. It's like Abraham -He doesn't adjust either, it's just his style to start slow and up his work rate after 4.
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Listen to the post-fight press conference. Naazim kept talking about how well Floyd adjusted. Mosley kept saying how Mayweather adjusted. Mayweather was talking about how he adjusted.

itrymariti · May 7, 2010

Overall, good posting here, Jack.

I'm tentatively expecting Pacquiao to win this at the moment, though I need to look over some of his fights again and have a bit of a think before I make a real prediction.

Jack · May 7, 2010

PBFred said: ↑

Listen to the post-fight press conference. Naazim kept talking about how well Floyd adjusted. Mosley kept saying how Mayweather adjusted. Mayweather was talking about how he adjusted.
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There was achange in his style but I think that was just the way Mayweather prefers it. He likes to see what his opponent has, before turning it on himself. If they call that great adjustment, fine, I just don't. Same as Abraham, as I said.

SugarRays · May 7, 2010

PAC is 10 times the fighter Judah is, I wouldn't be suprised if PAC could outsprint usain bolt..... For a very certain reason!

Rudyard · Jul 9, 2011

Gander Tasco said: ↑

Unfortunately these guys have limited knowledge of boxing. Mayweather does a lot of things that trainers would tell you to never do. He gets away with it because of his speed and agility.

As a boxer, he's pretty overrated. He doesn't have a jab, can't throw combinations. He relies on 2 or 3 punches and spams them throughout fights - lead lefts hooks, lead right, jab to the body. Again, it's his speed and agility that makes him look so good.

As far as textbook punching goes, Marquez is better - that doesn't mean he's a better fighter though.
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atsch You sure can tell how dumb one can be..You hate a fighter so much you basically have to make **** up to present your point!

pejevan · Jul 9, 2011

I can't wait for Ortiz to derail the train. Then we can start saying how overrated fraud was.

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